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How to Stop Islam Taking Over the West

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Stu--, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. Gooseman

    Gooseman Peon

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    #221
    Yeah, it is. You are looking in the wrong spot. Look under M for "muslims":D
     
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  2. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #222
    I understand your "fear" . in 2005 : Islam was widely considered Europe's fastest growing religion. And , France could be a majority Muslim country in about 25 years .
     
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  3. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #223
    Once a majority in France, do you believe muslims will follow the qu'ran and therefore, will kill and behead the local infidels?
     
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  4. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #224
    I do believe Muslims will follow the Holy Qur'an .
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #225

    This my friends is the problem. :eek:
     
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  6. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #226
    How can you imegine a Muslim with out The Holy Qur'an ? :confused: It is nonsense
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #227
    Ah, exactly. What I can imagine is not having either and having world wide peace as a result. :p
     
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  8. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #228
    Well , that is your own problem. Then you having problem with about 1.57 B ppls around the world .
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #229
    No. I have a problem with anyone that makes literal the destruction of a people, race or religion in the name of God.
     
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  10. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #230
    If you don't want The Holy Qur'an , exists , then it means you are having problem with integration with Muslims. You dont have to believe in it.

    But to tell, following The Holy Qur'an is the problem, then it means you have problem with every Muslim around the world
     
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  11. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #231
    If French citizens did not want to live under Islamic law what should they do?
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #232
    Something tells me I am losing you in the translation.

    Let me try this a different way. Let's consider that "Mein Kampf" is respected as a piece of Literature. Not unlike the "Bible" or the "Quarn". Is it reasonable to assume that someone could read it, without following the literal direction or ideology the book implies?

    It has been your suggestion that what is in the "Quarn" is true, final and acceptable. That said, is it also reasonable to assume that anyone that reads it and follows the literal direction or ideology it implies is someone to take issue with?
     
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  13. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #233
    What is in The Holy Qur'an is true. And every Muslim accepts it . And respect The Holy Qur'an much more. You know The Holy Qur'an is not the book , which can be discussed in one thread.( I mean , one thread is not enaugh for discussing it , learning it ) And it is not me, who can teach you The Holy Qur'an. If you really want to learn and research The Holy Qur'an you can do it, but only you really want to learn it, not just try to find the so called "proofes" for your ready made thoughts , which was formalised .

    The Holy Qur'an is the only Book which was send by our Creature ( We Muslims believe ) and we Muslims have to follow that Book . But what does follow mean ? How to follow ? Literally or ideology of The Holy Qur'an , it is another topic.
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #234
    I'm gonna stop you right there. Its that statement that most people have a problem with, and is the reason that so many have a problem with the small few that truly believe that. And its not 1.5 billion. :D
     
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  15. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #235
    I don't see , why it should make a problem. It is called beliefe. So we belive in it . :) We believe to The Holy Qur'an :)
     
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  16. Codythebest

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    #236

    So, are you guys going to kill the French at that point, since they are infidels as per the qu'ran?
    How will you proceed? beheading, since this is fashion lately?
     
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  17. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #237
    Where did I tell beheading ?
     
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  18. Gooseman

    Gooseman Peon

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    #238
    These figures are sooooo misleading. It is like saying the US is a christian nation. Many have the label of christian but few actually believe/follow/practice their religion. In europe, immigrants from islamic backgrounds are breeding like rabbits and popping out young one by the half dozen. Of course they will be as poor as a church uh.... mosque mouse and receive little or no education (Unlike their NA counterparts, European muslims are some of the most uneducated people in the WORLD). How many of those new "muslims" will follow their parents faith and how many will prefer the western sex, drugs and rock & roll. No contest. Like christianity in latter day europe, Islam will falter, become unrecognizable and have "followers" by name only.
     
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  19. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #239
    I understand these figures are not accurate . But it show that , Islam is the fast growing religion . Well maybe they are now not in a good position in europe. But who about the future ? And do you know the history of the Obama , I heard his roots were slaves, and they were sold in America, And now Obama is the president of the powerfull country in the world. ( If I am not wrong :) )

    No one can tell how will their position change in Europe
     
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    Actually, no. The President's not descended of any slaves here. One parent was white, the other from waaay outta town.
     
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