How to optimize for MSN?

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  1. #1
    Can anyone give me some onpage optimization tips for MSN? I seem to have Google covered, but MSN seems to come as a fluke..

    thanks
     
    terryuk, May 21, 2006 IP
  2. superpump

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    lol you give me your google secret first!
     
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  3. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    its not adzactly a secret lol :rolleyes: what's your msn secret then :p
     
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  4. sezerb

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    In my experience MSN gives more weight to <h1> tags and keyword density
     
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  5. diamond008

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    msn seems index faster than google. strange, not many people using MSN.
     
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  6. mavahntooth

    mavahntooth Well-Known Member

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    #6
    yeah. thats what im thinking about. but it is really a lot easier to rank in msn than google. :(
     
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  7. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    Yep MSN, seems to like well optimised pages. IBL's figure pretty heavily though they're less picky than Google with no aging penalty.
     
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  8. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Yer, um i might have to give it a try! But like, how about beating competitors? More weight?
     
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  9. Subzero

    Subzero Well-Known Member

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    #9
    No secret, but:

    Do on page SEO
    Get many backlinks using your main phrases
     
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    ltcobretti Well-Known Member

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    Title tags and backlinks is all you need :) they bounce around a bit though, you can't win that one...
     
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  11. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Yeah ok cool :) thanks
     
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    Tearabite Prominent Member

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    MSN likes interlinking (links in your site between pages) also
     
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  13. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Cheers, might have to have a shot :)
     
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    I my opinion, not much optimisation is needed for ranking good in MSN. Have backlinks, some good one and your on top.

    The Great Tribune.
     
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  15. ash1

    ash1 Active Member

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    but according to this logic...then all sites wud be on top and only 1 can

    but i agree, if you put lil effort in msn, u can move up fast
     
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    MSN is easy:

    -Have your main keyword in your URL (even if it looks spammy like www.long-keyword-phrase-here.com)

    -At the top of your page have an H1 tag with your main keyword in it

    -Page title should start with your main keyword

    -Have a keyword density of about 7% for your main keyword

    -All of your inbound links should have your main keyword in the anchor text

    Do this and you'll get picked up very fast. Google on the other hand will penalize you for over optimization.
     
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  17. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    It does seem that if your optimized well for MSN then Google will hit you with a penalty for over optimization. If you rank well in Google then take any traffic from MSN as a bonus.
     
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    I have found it quite easy to rank high in MSN on one of my sites on some good keywords. Basically the info what Discreet gave was pretty much what I have done and it worked well.
     
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    You might want to check your rankings today and see if the MSN fart affected your site. ;)
     
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  20. Web Gazelle

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    #20
    Share your thoughts about MSN's algo fart here. :eek:
     
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