How to move a site to a different category?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by ForgottenCreature, May 2, 2006.

  1. #1
    Well, one of our websites is listed in the wrong category, and I was wondering how we could go about moving it to a different one.
     
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  2. paidhosting

    paidhosting Peon

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    Try to contact the directory owner/admin and tell them to move it.

    Cheers
     
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  3. ForgottenCreature

    ForgottenCreature Notable Member

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    Thanks for the help, do you know how long it usually takes to process?
     
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    #4
    No, don't do that. There are no "owners" and Admins are highly unlikely to read let alone do anything about such a request. And you can't "tell" them to do anything - state your case and the editor will make the decision.

    Your choices.

    1. Go to the category where the site is listed and hit the Update URL link at the top. State your case and where you think the site should be moved to. Refer to category descriptions to explain fully why the site is listed incorrectly and why the new category is better suited. How long? Same as a suggestion - a couple of hours to a couple of years, no way to tell, but updates are displayed above new suggestions so should get some level of priority.

    2. Go to http://resource-zone.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12 and report it there. Though you may be told to do option 1 above depending on how busy they are.

    Note of caution - if the editor who moves the site does not have editing rights where it is being moved to, the site goes into the pot with all the other suggestions not yet listed, i.e. it is not automatically relisted. Also a request for a move will result in the site being fully reviewed again so make sure it is fully up to scratch.
     
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    max pain Notable Member

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    #5
    Forgottencreature sorry to interrupt your thread.. but I think you should be happy where your listing is right now.. chances are your entry will be removed and never be seen again.. u r lucky (i.e if u feel u r) to have it atleast listed in DMOZ

    Brizzie a question for you as you always give the most appropriate answers, if what forgottencreature has said is true and if his website is truely listed in the wrong category or their is an even more appropriate category (I dont see any subcategory mentioned).. shouldnt the editor have known better before listing the said website in that category?
     
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  6. macdesign

    macdesign Peon

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    Editors can make mistakes, or it can be borderline as to which of two categories a site belongs to, and the site's contents could have changed to make it more appropriate to now move it.

    However, 98% of category move requests I get are refused as being not correct.
     
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  7. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    Don't even try it. It will most likely result that your site will be moved to unreviewed and possibly never listed again. :)
     
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    What Brizzie said :)
     
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    Another reason maybe that the more appropriate category is new and was not there when the site was originally listed. True it should be moved when the new cat is formed but if it is in a borderline cat that is in another branch, it could get over looked.
     
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  10. Enigma

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    #10
    Personally, if I were you, which I'm not, I'd think twice about asking to be moved to a new category. As already stated earlier, your site may be unreviewed and moved to the suggested category where it could wait for a very, very long time to be re-reviewed and possibly re-listed. Or, as I've seen at Resource-zone, you could suggest a category move which will, of course, prompt a re-review of your site and they may deem it unlistable, thus deleting it from the directory. Do you want to take those chances with your site?
     
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  11. brizzie

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    Hmmm. From a DMOZ perspective it is not a good idea to encourage people not to report what they think is a site misplacement. But from a webmaster perspective there are risks in drawing attention to a site already listed. That is why I said make sure it is up to scratch first. Mistakes are made but like macdesign, 98% of the category move requests I dealt with were refused and based on a misunderstanding of where sites should be placed on the part of the webmaster. Who usually wanted a category with a higher profile rather than a better fit.

    No, the most likely result is no change at all. And a lot of updates are dealt with by editalls and above who will move and relist in one action. But there is a risk of being moved to unreviewed and one that a re-review will result in a complete rejection.
     
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    #12

    Brizzie, I fully agree. ForgottenCreature, if you are 100% sure that there is a misplacement, take the risk and go for it.

    One more reason, why I am convinced that it helps very much to reassure one's own identity every now and then.:D
     
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    Editors should not move a listed site to unreviewed because it is in a slightly wrong category. They should enlist the help of an editor who has privileges in the new category to list the site. There are mechanisms in place to facilitate this.

    If anyone has had a site unlisted because they had requested a move to a new category, you're free to PM or send me feedback, and I'll check it out. If indeed the editor did not have permissions in the new category, I will readd it. If it was deleted for cause, I will not.
     
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  14. ForgottenCreature

    ForgottenCreature Notable Member

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    Thanks guys, I appreciate the help.
     
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  15. brizzie

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    How odd - I don't recall my assistance ever being requested but I recall plenty of moved sites I relisted. I.e. the system doesn't work as robustly as it should I would conclude.
     
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    #16
    I have to agree with brizzie on this. It would be nice if it worked as ishfish says it should but personally I've never seen that happen, not even once. If it's moved by an editor who can edit in both categories it will be listed. Otherwise, I only see them being moved to unreviewed of the requested target category.
     
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  17. ishfish

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    There are mechanisms in place for this to occur. The fact that they don't get used means that editors moving listed sites to unreviewed are either lazy or do not care about delisting a site to move it to a marginally better category.
     
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    I agree with compostannie and brizzie. It *should* happen that way, but it seldom does, which, of course, is unfortunate. But, it's great, Ishfish, that you have agreed to help the original poster!
     
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    Or they aren't aware that there are such mechanisms in place. Maybe the site needs a complete re-review because it's changed dramatically. Surely there are more possibilities than just these?
     
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  20. ishfish

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    Aka bait and switch.
     
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