how to make peace between arabs and israel?

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  1. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #61
    then he can get busy converting the jews after he got rid of all palestanians.
    the other solution would be to kill all the palestanians as they are not going away
     
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    gamer Peon

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    #62
    first step may be kick arabs from israel.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #63
    i do not think that they would be leaving. any how ethnic cleansing is not such a good option either. i do not think jews would like to put their name next to either molosovich or hitler
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    pizzaman Active Member

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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #66
    Convert the Jews??? I am not afraid one ounce of the Jews. It is the other dudes that terrify me. Even a very anti semitic friend while discussing fiction admitted in the end that if given an ultimatum to live with his family either in Israel or in an Arab/Muslim country, for the sake of his grand child (which he loves very much) would definitely choose Israel.

    Let me quote Mark Twain for you: The Jew is not a disturber of the peace of any country. Even his enemies will concede that. He is not a loafer, he is not a sot, he is not noisy, he is not a brawler nor a rioter, he is not quarrelsome. In the statistics of crime his presence is conspicuously rare — in all countries. With murder and other crimes of violence he has but little to do: he is a stranger to the hangman. In the police court's daily long roll of "assaults" and "drunk and disorderlies" his name seldom appears ...

    A Jewish beggar is not impossible, perhaps; such a thing may exist, but there are few men that can say they have seen that spectacle.

    These facts are all on the credit side of the proposition that the Jew is a good and orderly citizen. Summed up, they certify that he is quiet, peaceable, industrious, unaddicted to high crimes and brutal dispositions; that his family life is commendable; that he is not a burden upon public charities; that he is not a beggar; that in benevolence he is above the reach of competition. These are the very quint-essentials of good citizenship.

    If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvellous fight in the world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #67
    i do not like your ideas and i am not going to read your comment all i think is your support for the group that use deception for conversion of the jews to christianity that you expressed in the other tread. or atleast that is the impresion that i got.
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #68
    Of course as a Christian I want everyone to convert to Christianity. You are absolutely right. I also know that NOT everyone will convert to Christianity. Jesus said to go and preach the word, he didn't say go and convert everyone.

    What I am saying is that if I had to choose between Jewish neighbours and Arabs neighbours my choice is crystal clear. I feel much safer living next to one group and not the other.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #69
    the problem is that most of the people with thinking similar to yours, want to promote their ideas over others to the point of exclusion.
    i do not think that i can change these peoples mind so i don't like to try.
    by the way i don't think i like to be your neighbor.
     
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    #70
    Where do you see this?

    Do you think he would convert you by the sword or something?

    You have a fear of Christians and you don't know why.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #71
    all the time. do you remember dixie chicks
    i know why
    your political philosophy is extreme and the proof is obvious
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #72
    You don't have to like me to be my neighbour. Yet I wonder you you choose to live in a country where a lot of folks think along the same way I do. That puzzles me a little.

    Anyway, where you come up with "the point of exclusion"? Is your rage against Jews for Jesus so great that you forget about the actual dudes who are about excluding everyone who is not on their side? I mean the dudes that follow the religion of peace.
     
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    #73
    What do the dixie chicks and Christianity have to do with each other?

    Where is my political philosophy extreme? What proof?

    Please try to answer the questions instead of giving some flat answer that only begs more questions. You don't know me yet you are scared of me because I am a Christian? You assume way too much if that is the case. What have I done or even said that would scare you to the point you wouldn't want to be my neighbor? I am betting that if we met and even had a coffee together that you would find that there is no harm desired from me upon you. And I wouldn't need to tell you about Jesus since you know that I am a Christian, but I would talk to you about my beliefs if you wanted to.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #74
    dixie chics were taken off air due to pressure by the people with extreeme views for opposing Bush
    i also remember the effort to stop public financing for PBS
    i am not scared of you but the fact that people with that general idiology as yours is closing the door on opposing view and i do not like that.
    i hope you see how a person feels when their views are silenced now that the turks have done it on this forum.
     
    pizzaman, Oct 18, 2007 IP
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    soniqhost.com Notable Member

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    #75
    Israel did leave Gaza, but that power void has been filled by Al Qeada and Hamas. Who shot missiles into Israel everyday.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #76
    there is no alqada in gaza
    misinformation on your part designed to support war
    since you think you know so much, do you know how many people have died in israel as the result of terrorist action in the last 5 years?
    you have to remember that israel and and palestanians are at war. killing your enemy at war is normal and if either of them do not like it they have to choose peace.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #77
    i had a conversation with with will spencer here and we talked about solutions to barriers to peace in ME
    take a look and if you feel you can add something then go ahead but this can be done and we should not loose this chance
    promote peace in Israel and with her neighbors. the only option.
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=509867&page=4
     
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    al Qaeda operatives have arrived in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, according to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas.


    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200603/FOR20060302b.html
     
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    #79
    If you ask a Jewish person with knowledge (even in Israel) he would choose Arabs over Christians..
     
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    #80
    That was a good one!



    oh, wait you are serious? hmmm...
     
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