How to know what count of backlinks is needed to gain top 5?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by vppromoter, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. #1
    Let's say I want to rank in some micro-medium niche, where backlink count to competitors varies from 30-300 backlinks (various related, unreleted, site-wide, sponsor links and so on).

    How to make good indication what kind of link building I need:

    How many comments, web 2.0 properties(hubpages...,), articles on ezines I need?
    How many links must to go to 1st tier backlinks?

    How you check the process?
     
    vppromoter, Jan 26, 2011 IP
  2. Edward.H

    Edward.H Peon

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    #2
    the quality of links is more important than quantity ,I think.
     
    Edward.H, Jan 26, 2011 IP
  3. labraintellekt

    labraintellekt Peon

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    I agree. I have an experiment and found out that most of the #1 in Rank in Google are made of only few links. For example, a site with 5000 backlinks is Ranked #2 in Google australia while the #1 Rank is composed of only only 50 backlinks or just 10% of the #2 site. After a deeper study, I found out that the #1 site has 40% back links from apple. This is what you mean by Quality over quantity.
     
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  4. harryoxford

    harryoxford Banned

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    In which search engine you want check backlinks because every search engine have own commands to check the backlinks
     
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  5. twmas52712

    twmas52712 Peon

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    I approve that. Using high PR backlinks help you gain the top you like. Back link should has 5-9 PR.
     
    twmas52712, Jan 26, 2011 IP
  6. Condorr

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    I find I generally need about 10x more than the top competitors to outrank them on a new site.
     
    Condorr, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  7. vppromoter

    vppromoter Active Member

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    #7
    Ok, let's take a realtime example:

    Washer dryer reviews:
    http://www.google.com/webhp#hl=en&s...asher+dryer+reviews&pbx=1&fp=b9d89de37295e86f

    One page has 122 links to it, one 632 and others up to 20 links. One page PR5, couple of PR4 some doesn't have PR.

    How you evaluate your competition backlinks? How You will try to count your manual backlinks which possibly will make desired results? Can you make a point how you would make your link building process timeline (let's say if you build 200 links and you are not in top5, what to do then)?
     
    vppromoter, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  8. tankard

    tankard Well-Known Member

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    #8
    If we assumed the quality of the links were the same, you'd need more links than the site that currently has the #6 position :D
    Just check Yahoo Siteexplorer to see what your competitors are doin'
     
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  9. vppromoter

    vppromoter Active Member

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    #9
    I know how to look backlinks in site explorer, I'm asking how to evaluate what I need to do with manual link building and what to do if it doesn't work. Just check my questions:

    How you evaluate your competition backlinks?
    How You will try to count your manual backlinks which possibly will make desired results?
    Can you make a point how you would make your link building process timeline (let's say if you build 200 links and you are not in top5, what to do then)?

    I wouldn't ask this if I would know how to do this. I made dozens of sites, but my link building was wrong and I want to improve.
     
    vppromoter, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  10. Caitlyn

    Caitlyn Guest

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    No one can say exactly this much of back-link will give result pr 5.
    you have build backlink in pagerank high . try to get link in .gov and .edu site. you have to get link related to your website.
     
    Caitlyn, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  11. GrindcoreVlad

    GrindcoreVlad Peon

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    #11
    There are no strict rules of backlinking and no-one can give you an universal algorithm on how your linkbuilding campaign should evolve. There are a lot of variables and that's why SEO is not a science but part art part instinct.

    The most you can do is try to replicate the number and quality of competitor's backlinks. If they have for example a PR4 link and a 2 PR3 links coming from related sites you can try to get more and better links: let's 2 PR4 from related sites and one PR5 from unrelated. Your plan should be based on your experience(which is built in time), instinct and thee amount of work you are prepared to do.
     
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  12. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #12
    Such question is impossible to answer/aproximate ...

    Regards
     
    w3bmaster, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  13. Kiranraj

    Kiranraj Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Go with quality backlinks more than quantity
     
    Kiranraj, Jan 27, 2011 IP