How to kill supplementals?

Lots of links ya ya, deep links ya ya, well is there any other secret to getting lots of co-op weight aka non-supplemental page indexing?

 

Have pages with actual unique content.

 

give this a read, too. If you have time.

http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

 

If you have existing pages showing up as supplemental, it is likely they are duplicates of something.. If it is on your site.. then working on making sure you have unique title and content helps a lot.

I know I have pulled existing pages out of supplemental status by just making a few minor modifications.

 

I'm sorry to ask the dumb question, but what the f**k is a supplemental?

 

Compar, they are referring to Google's Supplementary Index (supplementary search results listings).

That's actually not true, or not necessarily true. It's not necessarily a sign of lesser ranking but often more a reflection of the type of site (e.g., dynamic with several variables so the page may change from one viewing to another).

http://www.google.com/intl/en/webmasters/faq.html#label

 

Thank you for that explanation. Is it possible to get search results from this supplemental index? And if so how?

 

Pages from the supplemental index are included automatically in Google's search results if they are relevant to the search. You don't have to do anything special to retrieve them.

Of course, now when I try to post an example from Google I can't find one

You used to see items labeled as Supplemental in Google - one of the things that distinguishes them is they're not cached.

I just tried a few examples that I would have thought would yield supplemental results and I'm not seeing that label anymore. Maybe Google has discontinued the practice of specifically labeling them as being drawn from the Supplemental Index?

 

Are they marked or identified as being "supplemental"? And if they are delivered as part of a normal search why does any one want to "kill" them?

 

It is automated process, when you search for anykeyword Google automatically fetch the suppliment results from its suppliment index. the results are labled as Supplemental Result.

Not to worry Dr. here it is -

 

Supplemental results arent counted on the api though..

 

Thanks, Webmaster! I tried about 6 searches and couldn't find a single example to use!

See above.

(1) There is no good reason - I think it's reflecting a misunderstanding of what supplemental results actually are.
(2) According to Google, there is no way for the webmaster to do this anyway. Google selects the index - not the webmaster.

 

What do you mean by that and on what basis is the statement made?

 

You'll have to doulble check this but from what I remember:
1. Supplemental results dont count towards the coop (i have a site with 50,000 pages in G. but the Kwt + coop count it as about 2500)
2. Supplemental results are used to supply results on G usually when there are not alot of results to return for a search term.

As I said, double check, but I think so

 

I don't know if this is true or not - it would be news to me if it is true but I'd be interested in a definitive answer.

I think this is incorrect. According to Google, it's more about being able to include pages in the index that meet less stringent criteria and usually have less detail when listed as a search result. See my quote from Google above.

 

Thats true of course, but you dont really see supplemental results on any competitive terms, hence they are there to supplement the main index on search terms with less results too.


Edit* coop http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=25560&page=2

 

Note the date on that thread (mid-2004).

When Supplemental results first started appearing, there were all sorts of theories about what they were and what they meant. One that I recall was that pages or even sites about to be dropped from the index were first placed in the supplemental index.

If that was ever true (doubtful), I think it's clear that it's not true now. Again, see Google's comments on what Supplemental listings mean quoted above.

 

Oh Minstrel, you took all the fun away from everyone speculating and throwing out answers that were off target ... gosh, a few minutes of research and you killed all of the fun people were having coming up with the answers.

It's amazing that there are definitely places where Google does not give us definitive answers where speculation is appropriate and experiences of others very helpful .... But this is a great case where the answer is given to us by Google and it merely took a few seconds of Minstrel's time to provide it.

All together now .... "Thank you, Minstrel." Better yet, click on the pretty picture is his post and tell him yourself.

Thanks for being the voice of reason yet again David.

 

P. Supplemental Result
Google augments results for difficult queries by searching a supplemental collection of web pages. Results from this index are marked in green as "Supplemental."

http://web.archive.org/web/20040202015509/http://www.google.com/help/interpret.html

http://blog.outer-court.com/forum/4932.html

Old stuff, I knew I had read it somewhere

 

Granted it's only one site....but I have a AWS based site that's 100% in the sup index and the api shows 7,000+ pages. Coop weight is about 20K if my memory is correct.