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How to get listed in DMOZ, the easy way. 2 days.

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by gworld, Apr 21, 2005.

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  1. helleborine

    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    #261
    Indeed. "Corruption" can only exist if a benefit can be obtained by favoring one's own sites.

    Some corrupt editors, and some ODP accusers may believe that a benefit exists. But most webmasters that have several sites, some in DMOZ and some that aren't, etc., can testify that a page or site can rank extremely welll independent of a DMOZ link, and that no causality can be scientifically demonstrated.

    The corruption debate is a red herring, no matter how you look at it. It's discussing how many angels fit on the head of a pin. We should laugh at the so-called corrupt editors, rather than hound them, because they are completely deluded. Let them deeplink their own sites and ignore their competitor's submissions. It makes no difference. They may hope it does, but in reality, it does not.

    The situation in Adult, which I won't get into, is a shame, even if DMOZ is nothing but an academic exercize.

    Sure, the majority of editors, which are honest, volunteer under the mistaken belief that they are making a difference. And that's the tragedy, really. As they realize, slowly, that it isn't the case, they time out. Fewer people will volunteer. Given how few are accepted, and the "you're not really welcome to the club" feel of the application/rejection process, there isn't much hope for the ODP, and it will continue its descent into academic exercizedom.

    Editing one site, or a thousand sites, makes no difference.
    SEMrush
    You ask: "So, if you get rid of the corporate control, democratise, even reinvent the project to make it more relevant, what incentive does anyone have to edit even so?" You know the answer. There is no incentive, unless, and I don't say this with malice, you suffer from OCD.
     
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  2. brizzie

    brizzie Peon

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    #262
    The whole thing is a shame - there are some superb categories and groups of categories where nothing else out there comes close. I have already started "rescuing" a lot of the work I did (without touching the RDF - you don't know what murky things lurk in there and I'd rather be highly selective) - maybe I can find some way of making it relevant again.
     
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    #263
    Most links (of my so-called competitors) I've added to DMOZ have long time been on my websites and once I fix my website I plan to continue developing my own mini directory of relevant links and since my website is PR5 and gets 2000 visitors a day they should get some benefit out if it - probably lot more then out of DMOZ. ;)

    Easiest way to help quality websites you like is to find a way to get them into Wikipedia that should give them huge boost both in traffic and ranking and there is also Google Co-Op.
     
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  4. brizzie

    brizzie Peon

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    #264
    Looking at Wikipedia as an SEO tool and trying to find ways to manipulate it to your advantage is a far more heinous crime in my eyes than trying to spam DMOZ. Google Co-op might develop but what I have seen of it so far doesn't inspire me too greatly.

    Best of luck :) I think you are probably right that it will be more productive than doing the same thing within DMOZ. And that is because your directory can contain lots of detailed information alongside the links, something DMOZ is not able to do
     
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  5. Ivan Bajlo

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    #265
    Who says manipulation automatically has to be bad and evil? If you write useful article and cite some quality websites which you have used as source everyone benefits and nobody is hurt (well maybe some spammer who will lose SE traffic) - it is all about how you chose to (ab)use your skills and power. ;)

    I'm actually deleting articles from Wiki because they have been copy/pasted from my website, I could use opportunity to get another backlink but I have so many already it is embarrassing. :D
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    #266
    Ivan, sometimes you scare me. ;)
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    #267
    oops, duplicate post
     
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  8. helleborine

    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    #268
    It'll be what people make of it. It is a great opportunity. That is why I decided to roll up my sleeves, and give Google Co-Op the best possible contribution I could. You can make it inspiring. You don't have to apply, just sign in, and give it your best shot. Are you up to the challenge? Be one of the contributors that make the Co-Op a great project.
     
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  9. Al Capone

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    #269
    Every how often do they "robozilla" whens the best time to look for them?
     
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    #270
    Robozilla'd sites won't help you, they're removed from public view and tossed back into the queue.

    Maybe you want to find sites before they're Robizilla'd away? Robozilla is unpredictable, no one knows when it's let out of its cage.
     
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    #271
    And it isn't the only dead link checker. I used to run the Xenu Link Sleuth from time to time too.
     
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    #272
    your ever have any luck, i went through 70,000 domains in dmoz and no luck, is that normal?
     
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    #273
    I had plenty of luck. But remember I was an editor trying to find bad links to remove not domains to buy. There is not that much good news about DMOZ recently but its lack of 404's at the moment is great.
     
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    #274
    Thanks brizzie, any little bit of praise is always appreciated. :)
     
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    As I said somewhere else I am in the process of "rescuing" some of my work, and ran Xenu Link Sleuth over the first 120 odd links, expecting to have picked up some dead ones. Nothing. I was impressed I have to say.
     
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    Al Capone Well-Known Member

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    #276
    Are you saying you didn't buy any of the domains? You just removed them?
     
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    #277
    Why would brizzie waste his money on domains that have a worthless DMOZ link?

    Now that would be a really stupid use of $$$.

    Of course he just removed them. :rolleyes:
     
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    #278
    Why would I have wasted my money on buying listed domains at a premium when I could have bought new ones for next to nothing and listed them in the highest PR categories using my editall rights? But I did neither and it feels pretty good. Not everything in life revolves around $$$.
     
    brizzie, Sep 15, 2006 IP
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