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How to get listed in DMOZ, the easy way. 2 days.

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by gworld, Apr 21, 2005.

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  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #241
    I am sure adult categories are only there to serve the humanity. Be realistic how can human race survive without listings of torture, rape, bestiality and underground porn sites?
    I think Noble committee should nominate Admins for Nobel prize, for all their humanitarian efforts in developing the best "quality" directory for underground porn, gambling and drugs.
    SEMrush
     
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    #242
    Building categories does not mean you have to have an affiliation with the subject matter. You may simply be interested in the subject matter. Plenty of Adult editors have had no connection with the porn industry other than as customers. And I am not aware of who listed any of the torture, rape, bestiality and underground porn sites or who owns them so unless you know for sure that an Admin has a connection through ownership or listing of such sites then there is no connection, is there.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #243
    That is the reason, I suggested that Admins should get Nobel prize for all their humanitarian efforts. May be they can make new Nobel prizes like Nobel in porn, Nobel in Gambling and Nobel in drugs on line so DMOZ admins can get many of those. :rolleyes:
     
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    #244
    I saw dmoz looking at my site about a month after I submitted to them. I don't think it was listed though, but I thought that was pretty quick after reading all of the horror stories about how long it takes them to even look at your site.
     
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    #245
    Online pharmacies - http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Health/Pharmacy/Online_Pharmacies/desc.html - if you can see any listed that don't comply perhaps you could report them and I am sure an editor will deal with it.

    I seem to recall at one point doing a bit of editing of pharmacies in North America, prompted by some spam I think. What I don't recall is anyone putting any pressure on me to list or to prevent me delisting or rejecting any site, or anyone going in and reversing any decisions I had made.
     
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    #246
    ooooo, I want a "Noble prize". By the way, what the heck is a "Noble prize" anyway?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Sorry, typing too fast. Nobel prize. It is given in different fields, I thought the Admins should also receive one for all their humanitarian efforts to make a better world by listing underground porns. ;)
     
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    #248
    A prize given away by Jim.:D Sorry Sir, just can't resist.
     
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    #249
    The problem with your argument is that that "tiny handful" HAS stood very well against the combined withgt of those opposed to the removal of adult. It is not at all about the dynamics of change. It is about the dynamics of power and vested interests wanting the status quo and the rest of the DMOZ structure fearing to stand up against them... and that has to be because, as gworld says, the admins support that tiny handful.

    And Crossman, go do your homework. The grownups are talking here. :rolleyes:
     
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    Ooops. Is he a midget ?:eek:
     
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    #251
    By the childish post and actions by some in the dmoz forum I thought I have been talking to 12 years olds :eek:

    What?:confused: Nope
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    No. Just a kid who thinks he has something important to teach us... :rolleyes:
     
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    #253
    Be careful on what you say crossy. There are psychos watching what you disclose.

    If your not a midget maybe has weinie ?
     
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    #254
    Unless of course those dmoz clones already had the links up..

    But still a very good point, as it would be a benefit in terms of new sites scraping the data (although I guess there might be some kind of duplicate content penalty on those ones).

    Also, I don't think this "resetting" applies to Yahoo and would be shocked if it applied to MSN, so keep that in mind. I can second the person above in that I heard Matt Cutts specifically verify that links to expired domains lose their weight.

    edit: whoa I didn't realize this was a 13 page post and pressed reply after getting half way through the first page, so i apologize if the above has already been stated.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #255
    It is not at all about the dynamics of change. It is about the dynamics of power

    You are right, if honest editors had any influence on how DMOZ is managed, this situation would have been resolved long time ago.
     
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    #256
    Damn, I new I should have got connected with porn crew from the start - I would have been untouchable - instead I had nobody to cover my a** and got used as scapegoat instead. :rolleyes:
     
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    #257
    Not exactly if you are basing that on the pedophile chat rooms - the editor got kicked out years ago. I hope they remembered to report him/her to the FBI.

    I wouldn't disagree with that. But remember that DMOZ is not a community controlled voluntary project, it is a corporate-owned project that uses voluntary labour. To alter the power and effect change you need to take it out of corporate ownership and democratise. I can't see those with the power now going along with that and possession is nine tenths of the law.
     
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    #258
    Again, you are assuming that it is AOL corporation policy to engage in questionable activities as it is committed in DMOZ. I suggest instead that because of low priority of DMOZ in AOL corporation structure (DMOZ is something inherited from Netscape), AOL management has no real interest in what is happening in DMOZ or desire to fix it and that makes it possible for a small group to effectively control ODP for their own personal benefit.
    Therefore the key to the change will be to make DMOZ such a public relation nightmare for AOL that AOL management HAVE to deal with situation and clean it up. ;)
     
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    #259
    Boy, am I glad ODP links are pretty much worthless! If the links really counted, it would skew search results to display a disproportionate amount of cobwebbed old sites that were popular in 2002.

    Good thing what happens at the ODP doesn't count in the grand scheme of things, because it would be a disaster...

    Let's count our blessings that Google has long stopped giving the ODP links "extra love."
     
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    Nevertheless, even if this is true, and the AOL board couldn't care less, it remains an asset and they have to retain control whilst that is the case. The easiest thing to do is to transfer ownership to a trust or foundation with a charter that really does reflect an Open Source project. But it is nearly as easy simply to close it completely, or to maintain the status quo and let it slide into oblivion.

    This really is the key. Not only is that a natural dampener on abuse - what is the point of investing thousands of hours to get into a position where you can actually place sites in any category when the end result of that is worth nothing. But also it means that for the majority honest editors the promise that editing makes a difference to the Internet is a sham, their work will not be seen by anyone and will not promote the best sites to the top of search results. From what I can tell Google results actually completely discount DMOZ content entirely (I gave an example as evidence elsewhere). So, if you get rid of the corporate control, democratise, even reinvent the project to make it more relevant, what incentive does anyone have to edit even so? Except as an academic exercise in cataloguing. And it has to be said that there are people who would be happy about that and would enjoy it - they are not, and have never been, in the least interested in whether a single other person gained any benefit from their labours, webmaster or surfer.

    If you take gworld's universe as being true then there is a small group of corrupt conspirators jealously guarding what? Absolutely nothing of any value in terms of corruption, a futile exercise.
     
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