kev~ Recent Blog: Ray Mears builds a shelter in the rainforest Spirit Walker Join Date: May 2008 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,649 Quote: how to get good traffic If you want "good" traffic, you should optimize your site your site for the search engines, use targeted keywords on your site, and get some targeted advertising. The groups of people that you want to visit your site, "why" would they want to visit your site? What is it about your site that anyone would want to visit? Is there quality information there, is the information easy to find, is the site layed out in a fluid way to its easy to navigate? After all of that, "who" is your targeted audience of people and where are they at? Lets compare that to fishing. Lets say you want to go fishing, are you going to go fishing on a road? No, because fish do not live on a road. What about a desert? Will you catch any fish in the sand? What about fishing in a tree. Will you catch any fish in the limbs of a tree? No, you are going to catch fish in the water. People are the same way. You need to go fishing for visitors where the people are at. Is your targeted audience hanging out in directories, probably not. Is your targeted audience at social bookmarking sites, probably not. Figure out "who" your audience is and "where" they are at on the internet. And the rest is fishing. Use the right bait to get people to bite and visit your site. __________________ survival forum | computer gaming forums | digital camera forum Are you saying we should forget about directories and social bookmarking sites? This is surlely a totally different perspective than any other expressed here.