Your theory was proven wrong in the thread where the same verse was found in the translation offered by one of your Islamist comrades. No more taqiyya -- stand up for your beliefs or change 'em.
Always interesting to see how the various commentaries refute the crypto-Christian. Here is one of them. "Some people have falsely concluded from verse 9:29, that Muslims are commanded to attack all non-Muslims until they pay money. In fact, such an interpretation is completely false and contradicts authentic Islamic teachings. Commenting on this verse, Shaykh Jalal Abualrub writes: These Ayat (Quranic verses) stress the necessity of fighting against the People of the Scripture, but under what conditions? We previously established the fact that the Islamic State is not permitted to attack non-Muslims who are not hostile to Islam, who do not oppress Muslims, or try to convert Muslims by force from their religion, or expel them from their lands, or wage war against them, or prepare for attacks against them. If any of these offenses occurs, however, Muslims are permitted to defend themselves and protect their religion. Muslims are not permitted to attack non-Muslims who signed peace pacts with them, or non-Muslims who live under the protection of the Islamic State. (Abualrub, Holy Wars, Crusades, Jihad)" Try again.
more on the "miracles" of the quran. [video=youtube;pwMBOynKpXE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwMBOynKpXE[/video] "PakistaniAtheist". Very brave of him, considering that making of such videos, or anything modern and intellectual in this barbaric cave called Pakistan for that matter, can cause him his life by the same system of laws the awinsjsclaerke is so proud of.
Not only did you get my father's name wrong, you got my country wrong as well. "Bakka!" as the Japs would say. [video=youtube;p2Clk5lNUdQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ[/video] As for where "system of laws" are concerned, I accept Islam as my religion so I am obliged to obey it. I don't expect an Atheist who has no moral upbringing to understand this.
Omg, I know right? Like how those horrible Atheists raping 9 year olds then forcing them into marriage, beating their wives claiming it is the will of god, blowing up buildings, screwing animals, throwing rocks at people who are buried up to their waist/neck until they die.... Oh wait, my bad, that was actually Muslims. But what about how we jail people for holding hands in publ... oh wait. That was also you. We still beat and jail women for drinking alcoh.... Nope, my bad, that's you too. It's cool - at least we can agree that Atheists definitely bury people alive and kill them for trying to change their religion or get a divo.... Oh, no, no - I'm sorry. That was also you.
As I have mentioned before, arguing that Islam is responsible for the horrendous crimes done by just a few people is not looking at the whole picture. I never said that I agree to rape, murder, abuse, terrorism or any of the crimes that you mentioned. In fact all these (and more) are punishable under Islamic law. So I certainly do not know where you get the idea that Islam condones all of these...unless you have a very shallow mind and think that just because its done by some so-called "Muslims", therefore this means its "sanctioned" by Islam.
So you don't think that if a woman say, goes against allah, her husband warns her then sleeps apart from her and she continues - you DON'T support him striking her (lightly, leaving no marks, blah blah blah, etc) ? Because if you don't support that it seems to me you are going against your own "holy" book. How does menj feel about you only partially following the Qu'ran? Or doesn't he really care because he's the same? Nice pic of the chick over the car on his site by the way, smokin' hot.
If you are talking about Qur'an 4:34, then obviously you are going off-tangent, since the verse says nothing about rape or spousal abuse. I certainly don't think an Atheist have the qualifications to tell me whether I have gone against the Qur'an or not!
So you believe that in posting pictures of half naked women (with smokin' hot bods) online is a good thing for a Muslim to do? Please, explain how this goes with the Qu'ran (Unless you are a hypocrite, in which case, by all means - don't.) Oh and just so we're clear, don't whine when I bring something up that is slightly off topic, but in still in the general realm, of what we are discussing - not when you respond to so many posts in a similar, if not worse, fashion. How many times has there been a thread discussing something horrible muslims have done in the name of their god where you have come in saying something like "In Israel...." or "The jews...." ?
You can mention it another 1000 times, its still nonsense. Premise: In places you don't have Islam (or similar humiliating primitive ideologies), you don't have such crimes. Conclusion by simple logic: arguing that Islam is responsible for the horrendous crimes is pretty much looking at the whole picture. Logic. Logic. Logic. I hope you enjoyed the "miracles of the quran" I mean... the knowledge and mistakes of the Greeks. Nobody can argue with the great video of PakistaniAheist. Atheism is the future ajwin. You belong in the past.
I don't post "pictures of half naked women" as you falsely allege, so I am not sure where is this coming from? I certainly do not understand why you are suddenly switching topics unrelated to rape and abuse, if at all. You made a claim, I responded in kind. Now you are suddenly accusing me of posting half-naked women pictures when I have done no such thing. Hello, are you on Mars? If that is the argument you want to make, shall we say that based on the "premise" you are making, non-Muslims has no place in the world either since the top ten countries having the highest numbers of rape are non-Muslim countries? Shall we also say that, based on the"premise" you made above, Israel is also a primitive civilisation since it encourages prostitution and exploitation of women? Thanks to your Logic, I understand that Islam is a great religion, since it does not allow rape or prostitution to happen. I enjoyed the silliness of the video which repeats the old polemics that has been debunked time and time again. This is a very bizarre statement coming from someone living in a country where the only claim Zionists have to the land is from a religious text. So by your argument, are you saying that the whole ideology of Zionism is "based in the past"?
Are you from Mars? barbaric cave is that name of your house? When you are saying things like this you sound simply stupid and idiot without eyes and ears. A 2 year old kid has better IQ than yours. Get some knowledge of each country than speak about it. You also produce hate! What do you follow?
OK, you - whether you're menj or awinsjclarke - have a website. On this website you have a picture of a half naked chick on a car. What's not to get? Or are you just awkward about being called out? Then of course there's the whole adult side of things; as Rob has pointed out - it's your AdSense account, it's your server and it has been promoted by you. Which one of you (or is it both?) is going against your precious little god by promoting pornographic content? Also - isn't that illegal in your country?
Or you could grow up and pick a better religion. You argument is like saying "I was born poor and stupid, therefore I must stay poor and stupid." My advice: Evolve!
You are the one who need to reconsider your faith. I feel myself lucky to be born with a true faith. I will die as a Muslim.
Or failing that... to attempt to hide the evidence and deny the heck out of it. btw - I'd like to congratulate you on how much better your English syntax is in here vs what you post on your blog. In here it's almost as good, no it's AS good, as MENJ's. And people say DP isn't educational.