How soon to resubmit?

Besides what Rob said, let me give you another example.

In Regional, in New York State, very few sites belong at the
State, Metro, Region, or County levels. People submit them there because they think they'll get more coverage by being listed in a higher category.

First, that's false, a search engine will pick up the site no matter where it is listed in the Directory.

Secondly, to be listed at these higher levels, a site has to meet certain criteria, mainly it has to do with how many locations an entity has and where they are located. For example, if a RE business has multiple offices throughout the state, it will be listed at the State level, but if it only has one office/location, it must and will be listed in the locality/city that it's located in.

We don't just get one or two sites submitted to State, Metro, Region, and County levels, we get hundreds, so often times an editor will spend a great deal of time just moving sites from these higher categories down to the localities/cities where they belong and will be listed.

Why don't we list them as we move them? Because most editors in Regional edit at the locality/city level and can't reach these sites to do anything with them at all. So, it's important for both the site and the locality editor, that an editor like myself move those sites down to where they can reach them.

When I'm doing this sort of task, my only interest is moving the misplaced sites because it's time consuming to do. After the sites are moved down, then I'll edit the sites that only I can reach, starting at State level, and then to Metro, Regions, Counties, and to localities that don't have resident editors.

I start at the top because there are fewer sites to review. 90% of all sites in Regional will end up being listed at the locality level, so it's really a matter of trying to work logically rather than hop scotting around.

Not all editors can get to all sites. New editors are restricted to a small category while they learn, and they have to apply on thier own to expand their editing permissions. If they aren't ready (skill and experience wise) then they'll recieve feedback on what they need to improve on, if they are ready, permissions will be granted. It's a long slow slog up the hill, it's not just handed to you, you have to request it.

 

Do not submit a site again if it is not improved. Either it was rejected or not reviewed in all case do not submit it again if unchanged.

 

Elimination of double handling is a practice not a theory, Henry Ford popularized it. The point I was addressing was this:

 

It's a good point in theory, but it's different in practice. You usually have 3 or 4 windows open at the same time and it's a copy, paste, send type of task.

Open the site, look for the address or some other indication of location, go to that category in another window, copy address, back to listing, paste category address, send to correct category.

If you've got a hundred or so of those, you have a tendancy to want to concentrate on just that task for the moment, as being more efficient, , and like I said, there are editors below you that might need them in the small cats, though they can go out and find new ones on their own.

 

And the point I was addressing is there are less than 300 editalls in a directory of roughly 4 million sites and a couple of thousand editors... making double handling a REQUIREMENT in the case of most poorly submitted sites.

YOU can't do what you suggested in those cases, nor can most editors.

WHICH IS REALLY MORE HELPFUL TO DP READERS?
a. An explanation of the reason a well targeted submission is to the submitters advantage
b. A snotty self-congratulatory comment indicating other editors just aren't as clever as you are.

Bad when even moderators act like trolls. Nice work Tbarr. Point out this amazing example to Shawn and see if he's proud.

 

Those are not the cases that were being discussed.

 

From what I've read, 6 months seems to be the wait before a re-submit. Seems like a long time, but I imagine, continous submissions aren't going to speed things up..

 

Every time you resubmit, it just overwrites the previous one with the newer submission date, it doesn't give you two copies of them sitting there, as it used to do.

The downfall to that is that some editors (not myself) do edit by the date of submission, so you just screwed yourself.

When I'm reviewing sites in a specific category, myself, I look for ODP compliant titles and descriptions first because I'm basically a lazy ass and anything that saves me time stands out. Those are usually sites that were sent there from other categories by editors, but, some submitters "get it" and at least attempt to comply.

Those kind of submitters are going to get a reward, I'm going to look at their sites first. The submissions that have a list of words that don't form proper sentences or those idiots that write something like, "Best service in town! Come see our special sales! In business since 1829!" or anything like it, are going to still be sitting there while I move onto another category.

They can't be bothered to try, so I'll move on to one of the other 50,000 sites waiting. It ain't rocket science to take a look at the descriptions of existing sites or to read the submission guidelines. Doesn't have to be perfect, just not the exact opposite of what we want.

Other editors might be more patient, I'm not.