How Pres. Bush is received by US troops vs the anti american Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw

It says it all

 

Obama meets caskets of fallen troops

Reporting from Washington - President Obama traveled overnight to meet the flag-draped caskets of 18 Americans killed in military service this week, the height of the bloodiest month for the U.S. in the war in Afghanistan.

The president flew unannounced to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware by Marine helicopter to be present for the arrival of the fallen troops.

The solemn visit was the first of its kind for Obama and came as he is withdrawing troops from Iraq but contemplating a troop increase in Afghanistan. Earlier this week, the president spoke to sailors and aviators at a Naval Air Station in Jacksonville, Fla., where he promised that he would count the full cost of war before deciding to send more military personnel into harm's way.

The administration this year lifted a longstanding ban on media coverage of the return of fallen service members. Obama was accompanied by a small pool of White House reporters who were on duty overnight.

The casualties returning overnight were the seven Army soldiers and three Drug Enforcement Administration agents killed when their MH-47 Chinook crashed at Darreh-ye-Bum, and eight soldiers killed when their Stryker personnel vehicle was struck by a roadside bomb in the Arghandab River Valley. Both incidents occurred Monday.

Obama met privately with the families of the dead at a chapel on the Delaware base around 3 a.m EDT.

Shortly afterward, a white-gloved military team of six led the president's group to a large plane on the tarmac, where they stood at attention, single file, as the team transferred the casket of Sgt. Dale Griffin from the plane to a white mortuary van.

Reporters were allowed to watch that transfer, White House aides said, because the sergeant's family agreed to it. The White House policy permits media coverage of arrivals when families of the fallen approve.

Afterward, the president flew by helicopter back to the White House -- Marine One touched down on the South Lawn at 4:45 am -- and the president walked alone to the mansion. source

 

Whereas Bush meets the living, Obama has the respect to acknowledge the dead. Props for that.

Although Teddy Roosevelt would grab a gun and... well... you know the rest...

 

I don't think we will ever have another one like that. too bad.

 

Obama has respect for photo ops.

Pres. Bush met the families of the fallen when cameras weren't there.

That's the difference between a man of class and one of no class.

 

why you voted for him if you donot like him ?

 

The video shows what? WHAT?

That an Anti-American Muslim, terrorist/terrorist sympathizer attended a serviceman's funeral?

Get a grip, it's about how you perceive Obama to be against Israel, and that he is not a big as a supporter of Israel as you perceive Bush was?

 

The difference is that pres bush did it without cameras.

For Obama it's just a photo op.

 

With or without cameras Mikey, in your opinion should a Muslim such as Obama even be at a serviceman's funeral? a service man that has fought these terrorists?

 

That's the thread down the hall.

The op video says it all.

 

Obama, if he is a Muslim as you claim (in real life), can't just be Muslim in one "thread down the hall" he is Muslim all the time.

I am asking you in your opinion (and it is related to this thread) whether or not an Anti-American, Muslim terrorist should even be at the funeral of a serviceman, when the serviceman got killed fighting these Muslim terrorists?

It's a valid and straightforward question, so?

In respect of your propaganda video in particular, can't you see that both the events that Bush and Obama attended were at different periods (when support for the war was higher than it is now/then lower) and more importantly that these events are both totally different?

It's like comparing Egg and soldiers to cereal and saying they are the same they are both ate at breakfast?

Also, a comment from a Youtuber:

 

The problem with most pro war loud mouth is that they have never served and they don't know what standing at attention means.

 

gworld...That's so true it hurts...

Funny how my family and friends serving talk about returning the troops back home and the chickenhawks are talking about sending more troops in.

My friend in the Marines is leaving for Afghanistan in December. DECEMBER. DEC-GOD DAMN-CEMBER. It might get extended to December 2010, but it doesn't look likely. (Never listen to the news on troop level increase or decreases. Talk to a soldier who's getting deployed, it's beaten out the media's predictions every single time...That isn't a coincidence).

Buddy in the Army is going to Iraq in the spring to do police action work.

Another Marine in Saudi Arabia, fresh 2nd Lt butterbar, just handed his first map and his troops are scared shitless (of being led by him, not the enemy, of course).

These are some of the softest spoken individuals I have ever seen. Intensely educated and worldly, very opinionated of course...But realize that they are civilians first, citizen soldiers second. They enlisted/went through ROTC in order to serve and protect, it's up to us to allocate those resources accordingly since our politicians have failed in that respect.

There's a bigger chance of martial law occurring with the military trying to suppress these home-bred fanatical chicken-hawks from storming on the rest of us who disagree with them than taking orders to directly harm their neighbors.

It is so insane to see kids I've played football with, fought with over girls, got in trouble with, grew up with...Being sent across the world by cowards to fight other kids. We're exactly the same, and anyone serving will say that. There are guys over there who have gotten jaded and see the "brown folk" over there as stupid; those guys need to go HOME. Their mission is DONE but they feel like police, feel useless, feel like they have nothing to do but enforce law while armed to the teeth with people they think want to kill them at all times of the day. Combat stress changes a person. Armchair generals have not seen shellshock or PTSD or held a crying Air Force captain about a stupid mistake that cost lives.

Those that have not served see the military in the way India does; as a caste. A title of nobility almost. A big badge to be proud of, that will give their lives some meaning. It's disgusting to even write out and try to make sense of what these animals feel; that killing brings glory...

Napoleon: Titles do not honor men, men honor titles. And little men at that.

 

in the mean time the commander in Afghanistan gas been begging for more troops from Obama.

Now troops are in jeopardy because of deterioration but obama doesn't care.

He will only make a decision when it's politically best for him .

Classless!

 

Lol you should have put this above your post:




You didn't address any points made FYI

Why do you post hate on a public discussion board when you don't actually want to discuss anything?

 

Interesting how many soldiers were able to break from standing at attention to give a luke warm applause on the entry and departure of Mr.Obama. By that standard I suppose those soldiers will need to be disciplined.

 

If they did, then they should be disciplined. You don't stop standing attention unless it is ordered.

 

Now that's a creative twist.

 

oh, that's great, instead of spending lot's of money on elections campaigns, you can do many useful things with this money, like sending it to Israel because they are so poor there to a degree that they have no water to fill the settler's swimming pools in summer they had to steal Palestinian water, how antisemitic is US by pushing them to steal water!!

anyway, from now on, each candidate, can record his video messages, begging, crying, humor, dancing, shaking butt, naked.. whatever s/he thinks will make people vote for him - out it in a tape, and send it to marines, then later, each of these candidates will enter a hall full of marines, the one who will get more oooh!! ahhh!! horraaaay! will win the elections.

would you agree?

regardless, as if it matters who wins anyway..

now seriously, I do not interfere usually with such topics regarding American elections and presidents, but the stupidity of some is surprising me, and since the OP is not an American, but an Israeli who hate it so much that there is no new Bush now to start a new war on Iran on behalf of Israel, I decided to post,


if you want to compare between two incidents, then put them both in the same conditions, both being presidents, and both visiting marines, does not make the occasion the same,

Bush video shows him in his SURPRISE visit to troops in IRAQ, see the link, here is the original video:

President makes surprise visit to Iraq

and as The Time said then:

so, Bush visit was 1- a surprise, 2- in Iraq , 3- while marines morale was high, While Obama visit was to marines 1- in US, and 2- was not a surprise, 3- and morale are not high (funeral), not sure if you think it is OK to say OHHH AHHH HORRRAAAY in a funeral?

if you want to be fair, let Bush visit the marines in Afghanistan now, just make sure they take off their boots first

 

Obama FTW, Bush was the worst president in the history of the USA