How (not when) Do Results Start Showing?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by Ralph23, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. #1
    I've entered a mini niche with my own site full of 10 nicely written, SEO optimized articles. The niche has no competition for all of its keywords ~10,000+ pages in Google for each one with a sum of 15,000 searches a month for all of them combined.

    I've noticed a trickle of Google visitors over the past week or two. Normally 6 or so uniques from Google, resulting in a total of 10-15 page views a day.

    Obviously this is not going to make me any money with that, so I have a question. HOW does the real traffic kick in? Does it gradually become more and more over weekly periods, or is it one day BOOM, the visits come in thick and heavy (maybe because of a PR update or a SERPs update, etc...).

    I'm obviously targetting this question to more advanced niche site owners.

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    Also a secondary question, since this is not a blog but rather a small 10-article based site, whats the best SEO I can do? Since RSS feeds and "AWESOME CONTENT!!!" can't be applied here.

    PS- Currently my daily SEO work I have been doing for the past 2 weeks is submitting to 10 directories with various keywords as anchor text, 2 article directory submissions, and gaining backlinks from forums. I plan on doing this for just 2 weeks, so in about a day or so I'm gonna ccall it quits for the SEO work and just watch and see what happens as all of the links I've created are indexed.

    Advice/answers welcome. Thanks.
     
    Ralph23, Mar 21, 2009 IP
  2. Ralph23

    Ralph23 Peon

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    #2
    Don't leave me hanging guys.
     
    Ralph23, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  3. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #3
    Where do you rank in google for the keywords? If you're not in the top 10, you'll get very little traffic.

    Directory submission and forum links are not considered high quality links.

    Age of the site and backlinks are an important factor. If you have only been doing link building for two weeks, it is far too soon to expect great results.
     
    mjewel, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  4. Ralph23

    Ralph23 Peon

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    Yes I know two weeks is too soon which is why I made of point of not asking when but HOW. I'm just curious what I should be looking for in the future. As for my keywords, take a look:

    http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7489/infop.png

    All keyword strings have < 10,000 pages in google
     
    Ralph23, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  5. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    10K competition doesn't really mean a whole lot. You are really only competing against the top ten, so it only matters on how strong the top 10 sites currently ranking are. Keywords with 9K or 5K monthly searches are likely to be treated a lot different than a keyword with 200 searches. For the higher searched keywords, it would be pretty typical to rank decent for a short period of time (30 days or so) and then completely drop out. It might take 3, 6, 12 months or longer to start ranking in the top ten.

    Getting backlinks from trusted authority sites (sites that are ranking in the top 10 for the keywords) would help more than anything else. The more competitive the keyword, the more important external signals (backlinks) become. I personally wait 6 months from first indexed to begin a serious attempt at ranking for competitive keywords. How does you site compare in quality to the sites currently ranking in the top ten? Having the best site in the niche is going to help you more than anything else. With google hiring over 10,000 people to manually review sites - it is very important that you don't get a low rating if someone visits your site.

    As for what to expect, you'll likely see a sudden jump in rankings with a new site vs. gradual improvements. Whether or not that will put you into the top ten depends on the actual keywords and competition.
     
    mjewel, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  6. UIS4821

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    Yeah, you need to exercise some patience. If it were as easy as plastering some articles up we would all be rich. The age of the site has alot to do with your search results at least in my research. Work on some more content give it some time it can only get better.
     
    UIS4821, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  7. Ralph23

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    Yeah, I was sure to make sure the site looks good. I actually made a very fresh looking theme for it myself, so it's built just for this site.

    Anyway, I was under the impression that ~10,000 competing pages in Google was basically categorized under "little to no competition". Which is why I figured it'd be easy as hell to rank for the top 2 keywords that bring in 9,000 and 5,000 monthly searches.

    Sorry if I'm coming off as trying to rush this. I understand it takes a while and I don't expect results overnight. Why again, I'm mainly asking HOW results start showing, not WHEN.
     
    Ralph23, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  8. clades

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    #8
    If you started website in:

    2004...results show off in 2005
    2005...results show off in 2007
    2006...results show off in 2010
    2007...results show off in 2020
    2008...results show off in 2050
    2009...results show off in 2200
     
    clades, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  9. Lyle.

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    Hmmm... not sure If I can wait that long...
     
    Lyle., Mar 22, 2009 IP
  10. walkingbird

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    That chart is not legitimate. You need to analyze the top couple sites you are competition against. See what kind of back links and authority they have and try and get more back links and better back links than them. Some search terms with one million results are harder to get than search terms with 150 million results. It all depends on the sites you are competing against.
     
    walkingbird, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  11. Edward C. Mercer

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    Two weeks is really too soon to see any real results, i've never had a sight that took off in less than a couple of months.
     
    Edward C. Mercer, Mar 22, 2009 IP
  12. clades

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    Ah its how..dont worry if there will exist results they will punch you to death if you know what i mean...
     
    clades, Mar 22, 2009 IP