How much to charge? Any ideas?

Discussion in 'General Business' started by expertC, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi people,

    Just received an advertising enquiry for one of my “long forgotten” websites, something I put-up as an info site about 2 years ago and totally forgot about it. I think it is PR2 but I couldn’t even be bothered to run stats on it.

    Any idea how much I should quote?

    Thanks!

    expertC
     
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  2. sachin410

    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    #2
    if it is an "advertising enquiry", I assume the advertiser is more bothered about getting traffic and not PR/link benefits.

    in that case, the rates would depends on ad placement and traffic that your site gets.

    run a stats tool for 2 days. that will give you an idea about the traffic that your site receives.

    you don't even have awstats or something similar provided by your host?
     
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  3. expertC

    expertC Peon

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    Thank for the tip.

    Actually there is AW somewhere, but I usually disable them as I parse raw Apache logs myself. For this site I put log rotation as just one day and never looked at it.
    The e-mail doesn’t even ask for stats but simply states that advertiser is interested in type of targeted generic visitors that my site receives. Confusing, huh :confused:


     
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    the advertiser didn't ask for the stats because maybe he already has a rough idea about it.

    however, for someone on DP to suggest a rate, he has to know the traffic stats for the site.

    is it a 100 UV/day site.....1000, 10000, 100000?.....we need at least a rough figure.

    (the placement and niche are important too).
     
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  5. expertC

    expertC Peon

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    10000 UV :eek: on this one? I really doubt it. :) Around 100 is the closest. Niche is very specific – ethnic minority website with some free fonts and other small freebies. All visitors are “relevant” e.g. out of 100 all 100 are looking for that particular info.
     
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    not a lot of information, but still I will make a guess.

    let me make a few assumptions:

    -it is a small site and users are likely to quickly leave.
    -the advertiser will get a placement near the top of the site.
    -no other ads on the site (as you mentioned you made the site for informational purpose).
    -the ads are related to the content of the site.

    if the above are true, you can expect a good CTR for the ads....say around 10% of the UV's will click the ads.

    assume a price of 6 cents per click and you have $0.06/click X 10 clicks/day X 30 days

    = $18 per month.

    you can ask for $40-$50 and see how the advertiser reacts.
     
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  7. exstatic

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    Have they said what site it is they want to advertise on your site?
     
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  8. expertC

    expertC Peon

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    Thanks, people. I'll start from a higher figure and move down if needed. At least I have an idea how toget the pricing right.

    @exstatic: No, I was contacted by a broker.
     
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    This is useful thread, it never occurred to me how to apply a basic rule of thumb approach to selling Ads on targeted sites.

    I would normally try and see what an Ad agency would offer or such but that can take a while, otherwise I usually aim for $50 or up depending on the sites UVs.
     
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    You should use Google Analytics to track how much traffic you get. You can even give access of your stats to advertisers.
     
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  11. expertC

    expertC Peon

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    I use my own analytics after parsing raw logs. Any external service does not help me is it couldn’t even track hits on favicon.
     
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    #12
    The pricing is still on your decision..
    It would be better if you would be
    planning and you would take time analyzing that matter..
     
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    lifeplayer Notable Member

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    I suggest just set a lowest price you can accept and let the buyer bid for it
     
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    mentos Prominent Member

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    To be fair is around $30/month for non rotated top banner.
    And you should sell link coz many people interested to have their link at PRed site.
     
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    They can use Alexa, too.
     
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    How much is it worth to you?
     
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    expertC Peon

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    #17
    Thanks for all your answers, people. My ISP had routing problems, so I couldn’t access some sites, including this one. Still the connection not reliable, bug slowly getting there.

    Regarding the ad, actually they made an offer slightly more than $100 for a permalink (with two sentence description on 3 of my pages). I don’t care much about this particular site; I do not even maintain it anymore. Just keeping it on one of my hosting packages. So I would probably go for it. Selling links to PR2? I think it is my only PR2. My maintained sites are PR4 and up, but I am not into link sales (don’t know why though).
     
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    i agree~! you have to think every cent you spend :D
     
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    #19
    First you should get the traffic details of your site; and revamp the site based on you requirement. I recommend you to allow links for other sites so that you would a get a large number visits. And adsense for the revenue.
     
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