How much faith do you have in the ClickBank products you promote?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by WarrenBuffett, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. #1
    There are some really good sales pitches written by publishers, but how much faith do you have in the publisher's claims?

    I mean, do you really think the product you are promoting is well and truley up to the standard a publisher claims it to be?

    I can honestly say, I think some of the products I am promoting has left some doubt in my mind. Take Ultimate Wealth Creator for example, that was clearly a dodgy product, otherwise it wouldn't have been taken down.

    I guess all marketers are liars.

    Discuss. I am eager to hear everyone else's opinions.
     
    WarrenBuffett, Nov 14, 2007 IP
  2. richkid

    richkid Well-Known Member

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    haha... with the ones I promote through articles I honestly have not even read them. I just find a product that I think will sell well and promote it... probably bad ethics, but oh well.
     
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  3. ImCanuck

    ImCanuck Well-Known Member

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    I have read some of the ones I promote. Some of the others I try to make sure have a good rep. I have experimented with some that I wasn't sure of and if I know some have a bad rep I will stay away from them.
     
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  4. peeg

    peeg Peon

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    You will only succeed in affiliate marketing if you add enough value to persuade the visitor to buy through your link. Not knowing what the product even does just means that you'll have to rely on the dumb customers because the ones who'll buy will know their stuff.
     
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  5. McNewberstein

    McNewberstein Peon

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    I'm new to online marketing and Clickbank, but I work in marketing in the "real world", so I've been in the marketing field for some time. I don't agree with the statement that "all marketers are liars". Though I agree that you will find a few unscrupulous souls in the industry, especially in the "wild wild west" of online marketing.

    In my view, marketing is esentially a way to get a product or service in front of people who might enjoy/benefit from it--nothin' wrong with that, IMO.

    So far, I've been choosing products that I feel good about. I like to feel that I'm presenting folks with something of value--so in answer to the original question, I do have a fair amount of faith in these products. It helps to do some research in the field in general, to dig a little deeper than all the ezine-type "reviews" written by other affiliates, you'll eventually find out how real customers feel about the product.

    Maybe I'm a little pollyanna-ish, but that's my .02
     
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  6. Zibblu

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    Quoted for truth.

    I think most ClickBank products are crap, including most of the ones I promote. Even the ones that are actually alright products make exaggerated claims on their sales page.

    I think the thing to realize is that this is not unique to internet marketing. All of the TV ads you see are misleading with exaggerated claims as well. The ads on television in many ways are worse because they are trying to create a need where there is not one. Internet marketing is largely about trying to solve a need that someone already has (ie they are searching for something, you show up on the search results and give them what they are looking for.)

    I think it's quite interesting to look back at the whole history of the diamond engagement ring and how you are supposed to spend a certain amount on it etc. This was all created by De Beers. It's all manipulation. We are all manipulated from birth by marketing.

    I think marketing is disgusting and evil and I largely ignore advertising myself. Yet I make my living doing it. Hypocrisy tastes delicious!
     
    Zibblu, Nov 16, 2007 IP
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    ryanman Active Member

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    Well if you look at the products from the point of view of a person who is an above average internet user and knows a lot about for example money making online than yes most money making products would be of little or no use to him. But the majority of people who are on the internet are either average or below average users due to which the information offered in those ebooks are of high value to them.
     
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    ryan - that's a decent point. I actually got my start with internet marketing by buying a clickbank eBook which... if I read today I'd probably think was crap. But it was a good introduction for me. A well written guide can be a much quicker way of learning something than just stumbling around DP for example. For one thing - so much of the "information" posted here is just nonsense from newbees who don't know any better or from people trying to sell their own eBook.
     
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  9. timwhite

    timwhite Peon

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    Most clickbank products do seem to be pretty poor! Like Zibblu though my foray into the world of affiliate marketing started with a clickbank ebook. I can tell you already it was awful! They introduced me to clickbank, commision junction and adwords with very basic instruction. Then there were some copy and paste campaigns that made absolutely no money at all. Keyword spamming on adwords as well!

    Fortunately I was able to expand on what they told me and make a lot of money quite quickly so I didn't feel in the least bit ripped off. I could write a much better book in less than an hour though!!
     
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  10. WarrenBuffett

    WarrenBuffett Peon

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    Glad I'm not the only one.

    Which makes me wonder when or if some big giant internet authority will somehow be granted a court order or some legislation to put a stop to clickbank and it's poor quality products.

    I like clickbank, it offers products in demand and it makes money. BUT, im worried with such a large amount of crap that one day someone, someday will take action against clickbank resulting in it being shutdown and leave us back to where we started.

    Or am I just being too paranoid? I think clickbank has revolutionised internet marketing and is too much of a good thing to stay operational forever.
     
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  11. BeachBumIS

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    It would be way too expensive to buy all of the products I promote. But I do own more then a few.

    When I find a gem that is when I know I have a product worth spending money on promoting.

    As for quality. I read 2-3 real books a month, mostly on business and marketing. Only 1 in 6 books are worth what I paid for them. So feelings about "quality" are not limited to affiliate products.

    Michael
     
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  12. chixco

    chixco Active Member

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    To be honest, i only promote what i think will sale. i usually just read the sales page and if it sells me then i know i can promote it. It takes quite a bit to convince me and i know there are many people out there more gullible than i am and so ...
    Some times i buy the products, only to find they are absolute b*l*icks. take the googleadsforfree book. i bought that one and it is a crap product but i knew i could make a descent amount from promoting it coz of how the sales page just entices the person into buying.
     
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  13. timwhite

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    lol WarrenBuffet I wouldn't worry too much. There's plenty of brand name high street shops selling bad products. hmmm for a start think of any of the well known fast food chains!!
     
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    megarudy Active Member

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  15. Zibblu

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    Yeah I think so. I think it's pretty far down the list of important things for people to worry about.

    And like I said above, this is nothing new. There's BS being sold on TV commercials every day and there has been for a very long time. *shrug* Crap ain't goin' nowhere! If we got rid of all of the crap our entire economy would collapse. Our economy is BASED on crap!

    Buyer Beware ;)
     
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  16. timwhite

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    Also Clickbank do operate a 100% no quibble return policy (they know the majority of thier products are crap too!) So really I can't imagine why they'd ever get closed down. Lol and Zibblu, "Our economy is based on crap!", how true!!
     
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  17. GeorgR.

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    i am making a site per day on avg...it takes me about 10 mins to clone any product, make a subdomain and have a product ready to sell.

    So..i really dont care...i just promote. I do look over the sales-letter tho...if it really looks cra**y i dont promote the product.

    Later then i see how much success i have with the product/niche. Since it only takes a few minutes to make a presence for any product i dont see it as a big deal to change products.
     
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    I never promote products i havent brought. This helps me promote only quality products,. :D
     
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    products i buy and review i promote even more if i am convinced they're good...eg. DLGuard and covertlinks, two products i bought where i am 100% behind them and recommend them to everyone!
     
    GeorgR., Nov 22, 2007 IP