How much domain age affects on pagerank ? Please help.

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Narg, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hello.

    I just made a new great site. But domain was registered just 2 days ago.

    I want to buy PR links, make link exchanges and so on but how my domain age will affects on pagerank ? May be first year I will not have even PR 1 ?

    Please help me.

    Thank you for your answers.
     
    Narg, Sep 1, 2006 IP
  2. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #2
    Domain age has nothing to do with Pagerank calculation.
     
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  3. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #3
    Just market your site and for sure it will get ranked

    We have a site that we have not launched yet ................... we have had a splash page on the URL and we have got PR2 for the splash page
     
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  4. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #4
    for now site age has nothing to do with PR
    however
    i think that with the ongoing link-farming and other artificial methods to buy or create NON-natural links - to create artificail links in NO way related to the natural popularity of a site by real human surfers - was in no way planned when PR was invented and implemented by Google

    there might be a vague possibility that the major search engines one day soon may also use site age as an additional value factor - like the G sandbox is doing at least partially already
     
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  5. eukhost

    eukhost Banned

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    #5
    Domain age has got nothing to with the PageRank. Just keep on building quality incoming links to your site and wait for the next update.
     
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  6. mystikmedia

    mystikmedia Jedi Master

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    I don't know if I agree with that. I think they have already made it a factor. It may be harder to notice on some sites than others, though, I believe.
     
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  7. cbin

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    #7
    maybe for rankings but not for PR, PR comes from backlinks with PR
     
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  8. Icheb

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    #8
    That's exactly it.
     
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  9. guybrush

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    #9
    age has got nothing to do with it.
    A 10-year old site can be PR0 if it doesnt have any links pointing towards it.

    While saying the above, age may have some weightage in determining SERPs.
     
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    Actor Mike Peon

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    Yup. I can't imagine that if Microsoft launched a new site today that they'd spend a year waiting for PR
     
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  11. Dabs

    Dabs Peon

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    #11
    Go get listed in some directories. Get a few backlinks over time. Maybe 30 within the first week to a month, then a hundred links in 2 or 3 months. Then after a few more months, get a couple thousand links. Just make it look "normal". You'll get penalized if you have 10,000 back links within a few days. Unless you're going for an SEO contest.
     
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  12. topicalone

    topicalone Well-Known Member

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    #12
    >>I just made a new great site. But domain was registered just 2 days ago.

    If the site is great, as you wrote, then you should worry the least about PR. Continue building the site, PR will follow naturally - with all the natural backlinks to your site raving about that great product or service your have to offer... :)

    Side Note: Google page rank - as it shows on the toolbar - can not be trusted to measure the true ranking of a site. If you ask me, i would not run after PR these days... speaking from experience
     
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    #13
    Narg, don't buy links for PR unless you want to end up in the sandbox. If you do buy links be very careful.
     
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    #14
    It just takes a while for the first PR update. I got PR3 on my first site 2 months after opening it.
     
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    starke Active Member

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    #15
    I've seen two things about domain age... mainly though that the length of time that you have it registered for in the future is a factor...

    Meaning, that if you register a domain for a year vs. 10 yrs...

    I seen only a little about how old a site is... which does make sence, but if that was the case, it would serve to hurt & not encourage new development. Sandbox might be the way they do it...
     
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    I agree with your opinion that age is becoming a bigger part of results. Not only the age of the domain, but the number of times each page changes. I don't pay any attention to PR because I haven't noticed it effecting search results, lately. However, I have noticed pages which settled in well within Google results only to disappear for months after the page was modified even if no content was changed on the page. I have no proof, but my opinion is that the age of each page within a domain is being tacked from the date of its creation and a record is being kept of every time it is modified. The more times a page is modified the more it falls back in the search results.
     
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  17. Icheb

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    #17
    That is stupid. They aren't going to penalize webmasters for frequently updating their sites.
     
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  18. markhutch

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    #18
    From a webmasters point of view this is stupid, but folks at Google are NOT webmasters. Their number one goal is to provide quality results for the public. For a minute, just think about the world from Google's point of view and not as a webmaster. Would you trust a page that is constantly changing more than one which had not changed in a year? Most changes to the same page are done for SEO reasons, why else would the page keep changing? Please don't confuse new content pages with old pages which are always changing. I believe Google likes new content and they love old pages which have been around for years unchanged. I know my view isn't what most SEO folks want to hear, but that doesn't mean it is without merit. From a search engines point of view archives are the best source of content because they don't ever change and while the data may be old, SE's like Google trust them and they don't have to keep crawling and parsing the same page over and over again looking for new changes.
     
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  19. Icheb

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    Oh yeah, let's punish the sites because the search bot has more work. Too bad here is no smilie for rofl.
     
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    #20
    While I don't claim to "know it all" when it comes to subjects like this, I do know that there are millions of new pages being added to the Internet daily, if not hourly. SE's don't have infinite resources and I can only guess that they must make judgments on which sites and pages seem to be the most trusted and reliable. Pages which change several times per month, with the exception of an index page or maybe a sitemap page would look suspicious to me if I were working for a search engine. Isn't it possible that sites with pages that never change and new content being added daily would look more realistic than sites that have thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pages changing on a regular basis? I know the ideas I am putting forward here fly in the face of what most SEO experts have been saying for years, but isn't it also true that these same experts are not able to work their magic the way they once did? I have written more about my thoughts on this matter, here. While my words are only my opinions, I have thought about them for months before I expressed them in this forum.
     
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