Understandable, all the same if your charged with any of the above you still deserve human rights, for the reason that many people get framed and blackmailed. Rape cases in the UK, im glad they changed the law so that men that are wrongly accused by mental women now no longer see the woman remain as Miss X and the woman can now be put away for creating a false story. Plenty people doing time for a murder that someone else has done. Weapons can be planted. Protesters can be accused of terrorism, hence you need those human rights in place again to stop things getting completely out of hand. I aint sticking up for drunk drivers though, one thing that really cant be excused, theres no talking your way out of that one if your caught drink driving.
You know guys, this makes really sad reading for me I moved from Bedford to San Francisco in 1985. When I left England was a safe place with low crime rates and it was still safe to let your kids go out and play. I stil fondly remeber it that way. Now all I hear is horror stories and it really saddens me. MY daughter came back for 5 years and was telling me how bad things were, but I thought she was exaggerating Now it looks like it is true I live not far from Oakland and it is crime city, but it seems it is not on it's own Good luck guys
@ pipes. I suppose you're right. If found guilty, then yes, they shouldn't have human rights. Let them rot in jail. It's the EU's fault. And, jail isn't like a proper jail anymore - TV's, pool tables and stuff like that isn't punishing the criminal.
Well said. They should bring back capital punishment. Near where I live, a soldier who died in Iraq had a big funeral last week in our area and there was a party between family and friends at a small social club. Four guys came later on with Machetis and stole £500.00 from the takings and they viciously attacked two people there; they were aware of what was going on as well. I live in cr@ppy Stockport btw and there has been many, many armed robberies these days in the area and they don't care as they'd only get a slapped wrist if they got caught anyway. Pathetic.
And as they say, theres no problem for them getting drugs inside either, plus many of them manage to operate business while behind bars, both within the prisons and even giving orders for business dealings, murders etc, crazy.
There's too much focus everywhere on just bad news, whilst everyday what makes this country really good, is often your average person, individual in the street, going about there every day business, doing their best by others, demonstrating kindness as a norm, yet these kind of daily events by millions of ordinary people go unoticed y the news media who have a penchant only for reporting bad news, all the time. What I think we need to do is to put scaremongering stories such as the aforementioned into some perspective, for if you care to look around you, rather than bemoaning the state of the country is to look instead at yourself and how you can change things positively, for the better. If your not part of the solution as they say, then you are simply part of the problem. The main fault of the English, or the British come to that is that they don't know how to report good news, even though it goes on all around everybody, all the time. Maybe we need to start looking at our country folk with a bit more compassion, looking at the positives in people rather than always seeking to tear everyone apart. Perhaps if we didn't support such a punishment culture in this country, people here would feel more positive and have a higher positive self image about themselves and their individual place within society as a whole. Perhaps if we rewarded good effort instead of seeking more and more ways to crimilise innocent people for the most minor infractions the whole country might be better off for it. If we actually learn't to listen to each other and especially helped our young people here, they wouldn't feel so isolated and cut off from the rest of society as a whole. Perhaps if there was more social inclusion rather than social exclusion, this might help people, local communities and nationally, our self perception as a nation. If there was less claptrap, silly laws for this, that and the other to the point that it feels like one is living in a nanny state, everyone just might have some more respect for each other. Whilst this country treats the majority of it's citizens, who are the salt of the earth, with such disparaging disrespect, is it little wonder that many communities and individuals have lost so much hope? We need to focus more on the positive if we want things to get better and take our sight off the negative which just breeds comtempt and further lawlessness through alienation, which in itself brings about over time a kind of collective schizophrenia. Essentially this country needs a giant great big positive booting up the ass to get things moving in the right direction. If government cannot instigate that message about positivity and the media plays into the constant negativity, is it any wonder that things are as they are at the moment? Thankfully there are still many pockets of the country where life pretty much carries on perfectly normally, as it has for many decades. This raises the question, why is it working in those areas of the country, whilst in other parts, it has gone to pot? What is it that is working more positively and effectively in some towns and villages, when in other parts crime is so abundant? Big questions I know with no easy answers. At the end of the day, people want to feel valued. If they don't feel valued and respected, well, you get the picture.
I intend on living in the UK one days hopefully. I have the ability to protect myself against attack (training in Muso Jikiden Eishin-ryuu Iai, Kokodan Judo, Shotokan and a smattering of Shaolin Kung Fu).
Freakin hell, it's not that bad. People are acting like it's the worst country in the world which is ridiculous.
Agreed, its small areas of some cities and regions with problems i think. What adds to it is the hype by the media, the way things are reported make it sound like a scene from the mad max films. Its like theres a prediction of a crystal meth problem for the UK, i mean before its even happend they are reporting on what might be. They are basically creating a problem with a lesser known drug in the UK, by talking about it like that, actually bringing awareness to its availability.
What about the guy in who got locked up for defending himself against an intruder in his own house. Apparently, the judge ruled that the owner had used excessive force against the intruder because he only intended to rob the house and not do any physical harm to the owners - absolutely unbelievable!! If you disturb an intruder in your own home how the hell are you supposed to know what their intentions are??
You're meant to offer them a cuppa tea or coffee so that after they have finsihed ransacking your home they can sit down and catch their breath. Should the intruder need a hand removing your flat screen tv and laptops you should offer your assistance politely. Once he or they are done you should stand at your front door waving them goodbye, and be thankful they did not harm you or your family. At least thats the sort of story you kind of get from the police if you're a victim of crime. A neighbour down the road from us during the nineties cemented broken glass onto his high brick wall, on the top. And placed large nails pointing upwards along the length of his high fence, the local council made him remove it all, stating that someone may get injured from it. He argued the point that no one should be climbing onto his wall or fence anyway, that they would have no reason to be on there, but he had to remove it all. Guaranteeing the safety of potential future intruders, isn't that nice.