How many Vbulletin forums can you produce per site, when you purchase it?

Discussion in 'vBulletin' started by eyes2005, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. #1
    If you purchase the Vbulletin forum software, how many new+ different forums can you have on separate domains?

    (I am on about the Purchased/buy version, not the lease one)

    is there a limit to the amount of forums you can have once you purchase Vbulletin?

    (eg, you can have upto 5 forums, on 5 different urls/ 5 different forum topics)

    or can you produce infinite amount of forums on infinate domains?

    If you are just allowed one, but put your forum software on different domains, making 'more than one' forum, can they find out? and what could they do ? (vbulletin that is)
     
    eyes2005, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  2. blueparukia

    blueparukia Well-Known Member

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    #2
    You are allowed one forum on one domain. Its a ripoff, true, but its all you can do. And there would be a call home script from the serial that will render the script unusable on multiple domains.
     
    blueparukia, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  3. justinlorder

    justinlorder Peon

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    It is the first time I know that Vbulletin is not free.

    lol there are many free forum soft in my place, such as discuz, dvbbs and so on .
    safe fast nice template and skins and many features.
     
    justinlorder, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  4. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    Can others confirm this please????

    I know somebody who ordered it 1 year ago, and was just trying it out, and they managed to upload it on more than one domain, with no problems, making categories for the forums, and posted regularly on them.

    so it was uploaded more than once.. but as you said it would be Unusable, it wasnt on this instance...thats why i was wondering??
     
    eyes2005, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  5. blueparukia

    blueparukia Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Well I don't break the law so I wouldn't know.
     
    blueparukia, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  6. Bohra

    Bohra Prominent Member

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    Only 1 live forum per license but u are allowed to test in a directory but site shouldnt be live
     
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  7. mudassar

    mudassar Banned

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    Yes, Only 1 forum is allowed per license.
     
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  8. cipals15

    cipals15 Well-Known Member

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    #8
    The question is the same with "Can i install windows xp on two different computers?". Anyway, if you heard that you can use on multiple domains which is against the terms between you and vBulletin (..Please correct me if i'm wrong)
     
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  9. proxywhereabouts

    proxywhereabouts Notable Member

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    #9
    vbulletin owned license is only valid for 1 domain/lic.
    You can however setting up a test site which is only accessible to you. (not public)

    It has a callback code that will callback to their site and if you use more than 1 domain, all of them will call vb site using the same lic so you are most likely will be taken into legal action. (they do not do this themselves, they hire a third party investigator)

    Unless you are using a nulled script, you CAN'T use 1 copy of vbulletin on multiple domains.
     
    proxywhereabouts, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  10. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys. I suppose we have to pay for a new version of the forum to install it on another forum, or purchase a new licence?
     
    eyes2005, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  11. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    It isn't a ripoff, you get what you pay for ;)
    If you want a free forum, go build one. If you want a professional forum that doesn't need much maintenance, go with vBulletin

    and it's one license per domain/forum
     
    Brandon Sheley, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  12. blueparukia

    blueparukia Well-Known Member

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    Rofl. I could get into a debate about that. Like every other forum software, vB has pretty poor coding, vB just has tonnes more of it. Full of bloat, a terrible admin control panel (I was hoping 3.7 would clean it up) thats barely usable at the best of times. Frontend is nothing special - same as phpBB, MyBB, SMF and most other forum softwares (Beehive is completely weird though).

    Screw paying $180 dollars for something I can get for free, WITHOUT thos godawful social networking features (even when disabled they still use too much resources) and not have to pay the additional hosting cost for a dedi (I'll stick with VPS, thank you very much). I also like something that I don't have to modify any config files before I install - and vB seems to be the only forum that does this. The installer in general is too complex and my site maintenance doubled when I used vB - so much I had to shut down cause vB took a lovely 500GB/Month (using MyBB) bandwidth to over 1TB, which of course I was unable to pay off.

    MyBB also has considerably better (slave/master) database setup and a great coding environment for me to work in (though vB has considerably more, if not too many, code hooks).

    SMF, while having a terrible interface is lighter still with enough features, but I've never been able to get into it though I haven't used it as much.
    PhpBB3 abused the hell out of their HTML (why the f**k would you use definition lists for TABULAR data - its cleaner and faster to just use tables).
    Don't get me started on IPB.

    If all forum softwares were free, or all were $180 - vB would never be my choice, don't really care what others see.

    Done, and done. And I mean done.
     
    blueparukia, Sep 14, 2008 IP
  13. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    I would rather pay 300$ "vb and vbseo" and have a strong site that I know how to use and know it'll work from day one.


    sure you can run a forum on a free script, but you could also drive an old beater that you found in the junkyard to work everyday.. it's all about convenience to me ;)
     
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  14. Logician

    Logician Active Member

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    #14
    vb has pretty poor coding? vbulletin has one of the BEST (if not best) coding syntax in the market and believe me I'm a professional coder and deal with thousands of applications everyday.

    You may not like its interface, style, find it hard to use, find it expensive etc. all are subjective and IMO can't be objected if one thinks so. But telling it has a "poor coding" really shows you haven't dealt with any codes before. ;)

    BTW. MyBB is nothing but a clone of vbulletin 2.x versions. (But I admit it is a good clone). However it is just obsolete just like vb 2.x and can't be a match for latest versions of vb or IPB.

    You might run ANY forum software if you have a small/mid-sized amateur forum but when you start having 30.000 UV daily and no more tolerate even 15 minute downtime, security breaches, bugs, insufficient support, you have to end up with vb or invision. Rest will eventually be ruled out and in such a scenario beleive me paying $180 one time is no big deal as when your site is down for 10 minutes, you lose more money than that.
     
    Logician, Sep 15, 2008 IP
  15. toby

    toby Notable Member

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    #15
    one license for one forum. that's it.
     
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  16. blueparukia

    blueparukia Well-Known Member

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    I deal with tonnes of code and have very, very, very high standards.

    If an employee of mine wrote something like:

    
    	// otherwise, post is being edited
    	if (!can_moderate($threadinfo['forumid'], 'caneditposts'))
    	{ // check for moderator
    		if (!$threadinfo['open'])
    		{
    			$vbulletin->url = 'showthread.php?' . $vbulletin->session->vars['sessionurl'] . "t=$threadinfo[threadid]";
    			eval(standard_error(fetch_error('threadclosed')));
    		}
    		if (!($forumperms & $vbulletin->bf_ugp_forumpermissions['caneditpost']))
    		{
    			print_no_permission();
    		}
    		else
    		{
    			if ($vbulletin->userinfo['userid'] != $postinfo['userid'])
    			{
    				// check user owns this post
    				print_no_permission();
    			}
    			else
    			{
    				// check for time limits
    				if ($postinfo['dateline'] < (TIMENOW - ($vbulletin->options['edittimelimit'] * 60)) AND $vbulletin->options['edittimelimit'] != 0)
    				{
    					eval(standard_error(fetch_error('edittimelimit', $vbulletin->options['edittimelimit'], $vbulletin->options['contactuslink'])));
    				}
    			}
    		}
    	}
    }
    
    ($hook = vBulletinHook::fetch_hook('editpost_start')) ? eval($hook) : false;
    Code (markup):
    And I'd tell them to go to hell - its not too bad, but they obviously lack a coding template if they are mixing singletons and pointing arrows. Using eval for templates fullstop is enough reason to throw up. Cache the damn template.

    Give me what they use in their Ajax files, and I'll continously rehire and fire you for around an hour.

    Even mention their HTML and I'll sue the pants off you.

    Apart from my own, I have never seen an even adequate coded forum software - half of them use crap like jQuery, which is barely real Javascript or PHP objects that are bloated, slow and unnecessary.


    I'm fine with people liking vBulletin, we all have our own tastes, I don't like it.

    As for MyBB being a clone of vB - try the latest version, the ACP is actually usable.

    I bought a vB license, and had nothing but terrible experiences - particularly the incredibly bloat.

    At any point, the OPs original post has been answered many times now.
     
    blueparukia, Sep 15, 2008 IP
  17. Thirty Flirty

    Thirty Flirty Peon

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    #17

    As the owner of 4 or 5 V Bulletin powered forums (and a non techie), I have to agree. VB is some of the best value software out there. It is also incredibly easy to manage and tweak.

    My advice is to pay for the professional installation. If I had one minor gripe it is that they (VB) should make the customisation ( Leader board banners etc ) a push button operation - or else should supply a basic level of customisation as part of the Prof install package.

    Kind regards,

    Stuart
     
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  18. vBSeed

    vBSeed Peon

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    While I agree there is room for a truly well-designed and thought out bulletin that is stable and full-featured, the fact is that one doesn't exist.

    vBulletin is the best choice there is now. While it may be sloppy in many regards, at this point in time if you are serious about starting a forum, you need to go with vBulletin.
     
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  19. aioblogger

    aioblogger Banned

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    single forum with single license..
    multiple if nulled version..
     
    aioblogger, Oct 11, 2008 IP