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How many of you rank higher with Yahoo than Google

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by Clubtitan.org, Dec 14, 2004.

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    Just curious if this is something that is unique to me or a few or is this widespread. Are people so Google crazy that they are losing out by not trying to rank higher on other search engines such as MSN or Yahoo , Excite....etc.
    thanks for the input
    M4ck
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    Clubtitan.org, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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  2. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    I rank pretty crappy in Yahoo compared to Google. Google is easily optimized for. Yahoo is a bit more tricky.
     
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    eddie snowrider

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    I rank very well in Yahoo and msn ect top 5 for most of my keywords have not totaly figured out G yet around 30 for my main keywords.
     
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  4. Clubtitan.org

    Clubtitan.org Peon

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    Im in the same boat Eddie. I just seem to do better with Yahoo for some reason. I have found out by asking in my forums that lots of my new members found me because of yahoo and not google. I believe I do better on Yahoo because the sites are listed in their directory. Anyway I will keep trying to get higher in both but I'm glad I'm doing well in yahoo for right now.
    M4ck
     
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    dejaone Well-Known Member

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    do you get siginificant traffic from yahoo? 300 or 500 a day. I get a few thousands from google, but only a few from Yahoo. it's very slow for yahoo to index new pages even thought its slurp isn't lazy.
     
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    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    For me, it is almost identical for all the big three. I am not sure if that is good, bad or otherwise, but almost exactly the same for Shawn's tracker and the other two trackerless SE's.

    This is recent though because Inktomi previously did not have me anywhere near G, but now it has caught up.
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    wait til the Yahoo! algo changes :D
     
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    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    Why? Do you know something the rest of the SEO world doesn't?
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    Well, I'm sure the Yahoo algo will change at some point.
     
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    Clubtitan.org Peon

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    I am not sure how to really track the daily visitors from Yahoo but I know when I have asked how people found the site it is usually through the Yahoo search. I am still new to all this so if you can tell me how to track this on my own without input from the visitor I would appreciate it. All I know is that Yahoo has helped tremendously and the proof is in the 550 or so member I have now. Since getting in the top 10 on Yahoo for my search terms my membership has more than trippled only in about 1 1/2 months. Which has resulted in more money from clicks on the Adsense ads.
    M4ck
     
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    eddie snowrider

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    You need to get a log analyzing program their are many out their from free on up just depends how much information you are looking for.
    It will tell you were your visitors came from what search terms they used ect.
     
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    Clubtitan.org Peon

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    Any you would suggest over others. I dont want to waist time with ones that are no good or just half way decent.
    Oh and preferably free. LOL
    m4ck
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #13
    Awstats is free and comes installed with any decent Cpanel hosting.
     
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    Yahoo is definitely a lot easier to rank on as their algo relies less on links and more to do with on-page factors.
     
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    Agreed. On-page SEO is very important, but a word of caution for the less experienced... don't get carried away.

    I believe that on-page over optimizing can hurt if you take it to the extreme.
     
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    I do a bit better on yahoo but not by much.
     
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    I do better on yahoo than on google, too. I think part of it might be overoptimization, part the sandbox effect (no 4 on my phrase on allinanchor, but nowhere in the top 200 on the real search).
     
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    Yep yep, #1 on Y and M for quite a few, top 5 on quite a few more for both.

    G my highest ranking is 140 rest are no where to be found as I don't check beyond 200 positions.

    Pathetic....and for the life of me, can't figure it out. 6 months now and and can't break nothing but my butt trying to get any decent rank....lol

    Cheers
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Look at your logs, or run a web analysis program and look specifically for the referrer reports and referring URL reports, as well as "search terms".
     
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    Actually, I think that where you rank in the SERP's between the two SE's not only depends upon backlinks, but if the phrases that you are targeting are so called "money words".

    For example, take the phrase "real estate". Run a search on Google and Yahoo using any city + real estate. In most cases, you will find that Yahoo brings up sites of local realtors in the area. Google, on the other hand, brings up mostly articles on real estate for that area, doorway pages or blogs to a realtor web site, and real estate directories. The only real estate agents that show up are those with tons and tons of backlinks.

    Now do another Google search on any city + golf. Notice the difference? More local sites show up in the results. You may get some directory sites and an article or two, but you are more apt to find what pages on the intended topic of your search.

    I'm not sure how this could be called anything other than some sort of filter. Call it local rank, hub/aithority site issues, whatever your want. The algo is weighted very differently for "money words". Why would G have a filter on "money words"? Simple - to drive Adwords revenues. In fact, doing so is a very smart business model to drive revenues.
     
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