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How many of you accept Bitcoin for payments?

Discussion in 'Payment Processing' started by Blue Star Ent., Nov 4, 2019.

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    I have already decided to start taking Bitcoin for my work. How many of you currently accept Bitcoin?
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    Blue Star Ent., Nov 4, 2019 IP
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  2. JoeSpirit

    JoeSpirit Active Member

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    I'll accept bitcoin myself. The biggest problem I have is when it comes to taxes. Here in the US, the tax laws regarding crypto are complicated.
     
    JoeSpirit, Nov 5, 2019 IP
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    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    Cool. There is a thing integrated into Bitcoin called the "halving". Some call it the "halvening". In the other halvenings the price of Bitcoin went up within a year afterwards.

    It will be similar to getting paid twice. The next halvening event is next May. I will be trying to make all the Bitcoin I can.
     
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    Right now does look like a good time to accumulate.
     
    JoeSpirit, Nov 6, 2019 IP
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    I do as well. I always include the option of crypto in my services/products...
     
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    Is there a need to accept bitcoin? I mean...do you have a LOT of customers who will ONLY pay with bitcoin and it would cost you the sale if you didn't support it? Are you willing to take the risk of accepting a purchase then having the value of the bitcoin drop?
     
    NetStar, Nov 6, 2019 IP
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    Merely an option on my part. There is certainly risk. I've seen it as high as $20k a coin. This morning it's $9300 and change. I suppose it depends on your tolerance level - and the amount of risk you're willing to face.
     
    JoeSpirit, Nov 7, 2019 IP
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    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    Is there a NEED? At the moment, no, but many do appreciate the ability to be able to pay in an alternate currency. The world's money systems have gone from using gold and silver, to fiat money, to "plastic" money such as credit cards. Now the next step is a more secure way called cryptocurrency.

    Even though Bitcoin has been around for around ten years, it is still in its infancy. That means the early adopters are the ones in control. Once the early majority kicks in, Bitcoin will be more of a household term and many more will want to be able to pay with Bitcoin or some other cryptocurrency.

    See the numbers here:

    At the moment I see people offering a discount for people who pay with Bitcoin. This is smart, because they can see what is coming up.

    The value of Bitcoin drops in relation to OTHER currencies. It is still a viable currency even if the price drops 50% this afternoon.
     
    Blue Star Ent., Nov 7, 2019 IP
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    A credit card does not change the value of a dollar. It's a method to complete a monetary transaction of the dollar. A Bitcoin's value fluctuates by the minute (second?) and has to be converted to the dollar. The 1k US Dollars I put in to Bitcoin 2 years ago is worth $600 USD. If you accept bitcoin you have to accept that you will by selling your product at price AROUND your selling price. In my humble opinion, for 99% of purchases you are wasting your time supporting BTC as your customer most likely would have a different method of payment if BTC wasn't accepted. Some sort of digital currency is the future but it's certainly NOT Bitcoin. It's certainly not worth the time supporting it for sales when you already accept credit cards and paypal. This is my opinion. It won't bring in more sales or cost you sales.
     
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    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    Credit cards in the US banking system are based on the dollar. Bitcoin is based on...? >> Math.
    The value of USD also fluctuates by the minute. What is the dollar based on? :confused:

    Bitcoin is not yet well-known enough to replace the dollar or yen or deutschmarke or other world-renowned currencies, but it is getting there. Millenials are much more open to Bitcoin than their predecessors.

    Which cryptocurrency will be the future winner? Right now, the lineup has Bitcoin as the most popular and Ethereum second.
     
    Blue Star Ent., Nov 7, 2019 IP
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    I see crypto gaining in popularity in time. I'm not confident that crypto will replace fiat, at least in the near future.

    I believe the various governments will fight that and I think that will cause ongoing friction to the rise of crypto widespread usage.
     
    JoeSpirit, Nov 8, 2019 IP
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    No. While inflation changes by the minute the US Dollar is the US Dollar. If you accept payment in USD you receive full USD payment. If you accept BTC the actual value when converting to USD changes every minute. If I give you $100 USD you have $100 USD regardless of inflation or the buying power. If I give you $100 USD in BTC when 1 BTC = $10k if you convert when BTC falls to $5k you are left with $50 USD. BTC's value changes rapidly by the minute. At one time 1 BTC was $19k. At one time 1 BTC was $300. $100 USD is $100 USD.
     
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    The value of the dollar has steadily gone down. The value of BTC has steadily gone up.

    Remember the five and ten stores? Now we have dollar stores.

    If I spend one BTC, the seller gets one BTC. It is the same with any currency.

    If a person had used $100 dollars to buy Bitcoin in 2009-2010, and kept the BTC, they would now be millionaires.
     
    Blue Star Ent., Nov 8, 2019 IP
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    I don't think you understand. If i give you a $100 USD bill you have a $100 USD bill. Regardless of inflation you still have a hundred dollar american bill. If I buy $100 USD IN BTC then send it to you. Once you turn around to exchange your % of BTC in to USD you will NOT have $100 USD. The end.

    Your example of people becoming millionaires with BTC is irrelevant. We aren't talking about investing in BTC. We are talking about accepting BTC as form of payment for a service or product. If you still think Bitcoin is as profitable as it was back in 2009 and 2010 you have clearly missed the point. It is MORE likely that you will accept BTC as form of payment and LOSE money than gain money.
     
    NetStar, Nov 10, 2019 IP
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    Actually I do understand.
    I was using BTC, not USD as the base currency. One BTC will always equal one BTC in the BTC economy.

    • For those who want to trade currency pairs, well, that would be trading.

    • To work for something in BTC, especially since this cryptocurrency is now stable, would not end up being a loss of money.

    • This is going to be especially true with the history of the "halving" effect:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/billyb...litecoin-and-ripple-xrp-warning/#4834c2302e37

    For all of the last halvings (some call them halvenings) of Bitcoin, the price, as related to USD, went up↑. Sometimes it went waaaay up! Another halving is due in a few months, probably when a recession will hit the USA and USD.

    • Another rally in price will be the effect, because this is how Bitcoin was created to begin with. Halvings create scarcity and this makes the value go up.

    • I invite you to study more on Bitcoin.
     
    Blue Star Ent., Nov 12, 2019 IP