How many listings on DMOZ is too much?

Hello every one, this is my first post ( and hopefully not the last) I am trying to figure out how many listings on DMOZ is too many. One of my competitors has 300+ and this seems like an unusually high amount. I figure that they have an editor paid off, working for them, and/or both. Is it worth reporting them to DMOZ or could this cause more problems for me in the end?

 

Who is your competition? Some sites are big enough to have so many deep links. If your competition is not that big to deserve 300 links then there is 2 alternatives.
If your competition or the editor that they have paid of is high enough in DMOZ, then nothing will happen and you get your site most likely banned, otherwise they can remove your competition links but it doesn't mean that they will add your site.

 

Well if that site is an authority site then maybe it does deserve 300 listings
but if the site has them for no apparent reason then probably they are PAID listings
you can raise the issue with an Editor in one of those categories but be careful don't
reveal your real identity.

If you don't mind send me the site in question maybe I have better advice to give you ...

 

Chios gave you good sound advice - don't cut off your nose to spite your face - be careful how you handle this

 

Yeah that is why I wanted to confirm some of the info here. The site does have authority so it is probably legit then. I appreciate the help guys

 

take a look at this http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html

if the guidelines make you feel that the site in question SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED then report it ...
and report the EDITOR as well ...

 

how do you can know the editor who added any link to the directory ? I`m trying to find few '' friends '' around since few weeks and its seems is not possible . At how the things are going on I`m thinking not even them have any trace records about this lol

 

What?

 

Yes they do have records of who EDITED what ....
but what I meant is to report it to the editors

the editors can be found at the end of each category
for example look at the end of this category
http://www.dmoz.org/Sports/
there are 2 editors responsible to this

actually maybe he should avoid reporting it to the category in question editor ...

 

There is a button on the top right of each category which is labelled "report abuse/spam". That does not go to the category editor but to higher up editors and is in confidence. Use that to report any sites that you feel have been listed unfairly.

The chances of someone outside ODP knowing who did a listing or removal is non existent. Even if an editor is named in that local category, that editor is not the only editor for that category, it does not belong to them. We have a couple of hundred editors who can edit in any category, and do, also any editor further up the tree in that category can edit in any categories which are below where that editor is named.

And don't you for one moment believe that we do not have records of editor activity, anything that an editor does has a log and every site has its own log, tracing what was done to it and by who.

 

IF there some of you guys accept the fact under the directory are abuse and spam's how's come same you guys claiming there are guidelines and rules which are respected by all editors ? IF you guys have records about the activity of each editor what happens with the spam links which are reported by the public ? I understand there can be something not right ( with reporting the links which domains expired ) ... but same editors who is considered to be enough '' experienced '' and it's seems they are passing the thing with editorial application for volunteer editor , they are adding domains which after some short time will expire ... for example I reported two links before expired domains one of them parked at godaddy and other one deleted at all ... how's come this links was added there ? can someone to ask the editor who added this two links '' what considered him enough valuable for this domains to be added on the directory '' ?

I have a list with other 6 - 7 links from the directory , who are breaking the guidelines and the rules from ODP , can we have a happy meeting somewhere ( there on DP or maybe at RZ forums ) with the editors who added them ( when I`ll make the links public ) to tell us all not to the meta/cat edit and editall peoples .. to public and somewhere where they cant delete what are they saying ... ?

 

The way you form your sentences is ... well ... a little confusing

Did you actually report those links ? and they are still there ?
If you have done it long time ago, then the editors probably have been paid to put them there ...

 

I`m not native english and I know my grammar isn't well but I think I can write what I wanna say pretty well who wanna read and understand can do it with a very little effort .
Suppose you didn't read all of my replies and posts under this sub forums , but I think I can light in short ... Yes I reported two links they got deleted within a hour maxim , when I wanted to ask another thing just a general question I asked it , and I got an answer which blink my eyes and my cell brains ( I was almost sure I saw the words somewhere else ) ... and because I was bored at this time I started to open different threads on the forums ( there and on RZ forums ) ... when I notices 99% from the replies are SAME ! when I`m mean same they are just damn it copy/paste .. first time I tough the user name who made them is some kind of robot auto poster lol .... spend few more time on the forum , trying to figure what's going on and I notice with a big surprise is a human lol ..
At this point I got somewhat confused and I go to the ODP directory ( was my first time when I open this directory on my browser - never I was interested about it ... ) and I started to read around ... in this time replying to the threads continuing the questions '' rewrite '' them ... .. of course under same threads ... when I figured this guys practically have just a well covered story claiming things like '' human review '' / '' tools which check sites '' / '' guidelines '' and so on ... so within few hours of browsing the directory on different ( totally random ) I found loads of spam links listed there ( I named them before on the forum - why they are spam and which of the rules are breaking - but never named the domains name and I`ll not make them public until I`m not sure is worth to do ) ... At this moment if you are asking me I honestly regret I reported the two links on RZ forums just because I realized it's worthless to do , better was for me jut to go and to register the domains and or to build something on them or to simply sell them with some profit lol , also I do not have any reason at this moment to name the sites spamy on the directory just because I do not let the one who added them without hes source of income lol .....

 

I personally know editors like jimnoble and other senior editors at ODP and I would trust them with my house keys. If there was consistent corruption at high level they would know and I am absolutely certain that they would not be complicit.

If an editor consistently breaks the rules they will be dealt with, but which business will haul its employees into the public and publicly flog them? Let alone a voluntary organisation. When we boot an editor, however much we might be taunted and abused by that person the facts of their expulsion never become public. I bet that many governments both sides of the Atlantic would like to be that leak free.

We do unfortunately have one or two bad apples at times, people like g(Iam going to stamp out corruption in ODP)world, who openly claims the breaking of all the rules with having 10 editor accounts. How can anyone want to stamp out corruption when they clearly are at the hub of any we might have? But with vigilant editors and a vigilant public bad apples don't last long and the work they have done is looked at. I am sure we would prefer to have a thousand erroneous reports to get one that helps us catch a corrupt editor.

You say you have a list of 6/7 our machines seem to throw that out a minute. If only 1 site in 100 has a problem that is thousands a year. Those are not just dumped, they are taken out of public view and kept until an editor checks the position and checks for a new site, only when that fails are they permanently removed.

If a site is up and working then I would not check how long it has to be expired, most are renewed anyway and I have seen parked sites added but unless it was a mistake the editor must be nuts. Why add a parked domain, which then has your name showing what you have done and when, easily traceable to what was on site unless you are a suicide editor? I believe at times we all press the wrong button and a site ends up doing something we did not intend.

I don't think you will find an editor on here demurring from saying if you find bad links report them, if you think an editor has acted improperly because of the way sites are added to a category, report it.

 

It's seems peoples started to understand what and why I've made such case in last few weeks lol Thanks god !
I`ll never claim someone is corrupt or not , or is trusted / fairly and so on , maybe yes I read some of the posts of gworld , some of things is true are a little '' smelly '' but ... you know what that's prove there are humans who do that ... ( * see what I said before about what means humans ... ) , What can I say about Jim ... well since he's one of the senior's he deserve fully trust and our respect ( * please note this not change my impression with the copy / paste answers !!! ) he's age and he's life experience cant be taken out from the context and that make hes position stronger - don't think even a second i`m trying now to '' ki$$ hes a$$ '' because never i`m doing this for anyone !

Maybe you didn't read all replies and all posts which I made before and I can't accuse for nothing actually is losing time to do it lol .... but like a resume :
At the directory at this moment are 6 or 7 links which are breaking the rules from the guidelines ( they are spared on different categories ) Domains wasn't changed the propose or the owners over the years ( this can be checked on the web.archive.org and any registrar record service ) . Some of them I look specially about them , one of them I found just from '' mistake '' ...

The expired link and parked link which I reported before at RZ forums ( after I checked them around ) was using same commercial script ( something similar like one of my scripts ... ) Just a small note there if I can , I said before under the forum something about '' powered by .... " under one of the categories which have a decent number of links there .... an important part of this links using same script this can be something ... fishy.... if you are asking me because I`m pretty sure other scripts similar with this one are used on another sites which are far better than them but is not my job to criticize this ...

 

"he's age and he's life experience cant be taken out from the context and that make hes position stronger"
I'm sure there is also a comment to this, but I will take a leaf out of jim's book in another thread and reluctantly refrain.

 

Hi DMOZ editor - Can you tell us how a site gets 300 links in the directory?

 

He'll likely not answer with anything more then the listings are well deserved.

Look up topix at DMOZ and you'll find more then 10K listings (10k is the limit buffer for their search). It's a site owned by an editor, and they were NOT put in by a human, which I find odd in a HUMAN edited directory