How many keywords do you usually manage in one single group?

Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by adwordsrookie, Apr 19, 2008.

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    I have four groups in one campaign that targeted at US. Each one of these four groups has more than 300 keywords. Sounds a little bit too more?

    I wonder if i should regroup these keywords by relevance, and then write more relevance ads for each group?

    I have used Campaign Optimizer, i am worried about that deleting old group might decrease the performace, especially historical performace/QS, ads performance...etc.

    What should i do?
     
    adwordsrookie, Apr 19, 2008 IP
  2. hotbacon

    hotbacon Well-Known Member

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    The most SEO consultants recommend less than 20 keywords in one ad group. I do the same. If one of this keyword is killing, you can make the separate group for this one for better tracking and bids management.
     
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    bakun Banned

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    nice tips, hotbacon. I'll try this. :D
     
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  4. adwordsrookie

    adwordsrookie Peon

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    thanks, i will give it a try and tell you guys the result.
     
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    rizmian Guest

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    Yes never utilized more then 20 keywords in one group but also ad some negetive keywords
     
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    #6
    all this advice is junk...

    the answer is yes, break those 300 keywords up into tiny little groups of keywords and write the best text ad you possible can for each adgroup.

    If you are not good at keyword clustering then I highly recommend putting each keyword into its own adgroup till you get good at things.

    Dont worry about breaking things up, your performance will only increase. I have never seen going from 300 keywords in one adgroup to 1-1 adgrouping with a decrease in performance.
     
    robertpriolo, Apr 21, 2008 IP
  7. PPC-Coach

    PPC-Coach Active Member

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    If it's a search network campaign: 25 keywords maximum

    If it's a content network campaign: 50 keywords maximum
     
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    Cool stuff I'll try this.
     
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    An ad group per keyword is the best way to target your ads. Then you can write your ads specifically for that keyword. The tighter campaign structure will also help your Quality Score too. I usually add misspellings to the same ad group as the same ad will apply
     
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    I use 500 per AG while some professionals recommend more than 5000 relative
     
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    I and my partner maintaining 50 keywords only for our site.
     
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    It's all about keeping the grouping of keywords relevent.

    If you have 20 keywords that are all very related and work well with the text in your ad and the text on your landing page then that is one adgroup.

    Equally you might find that you have some keywords that just don't sit with you other keywords and they should go into their own group.

    So to answer the question, there isn't really a set number. It's all about grouping the keywords into related groupings that are relevent to the text in the ad and the text on the landing page.

    I hope that helps.

    Cheers
    Mike
     
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  13. webmaster

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    As everybody know that out of total number of keywords only 10% keywords are those which generate maximum traffic and conversion volume. So, one should keep focus on those and put them in adgroups accordingly. They might be 20 - 30 per adgroup and might be more adgroups for these keywords.

    hope i have contributed little.
     
    webmaster, Apr 23, 2008 IP
  14. muchacho79

    muchacho79 Active Member

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    This is very simple indeed:

    If the keyword gets a very small amount of impressions? By all means have it in a very relevant Ad Group with other keywords that also get a small amount of impressions.

    If it receives by what you see as a moderate or more amount of impressions - then put it into it's very own Ad Group. But be sure not to have different match types in the same Ad Group.

    For instance you could have:

    [blue widgets] - this gets a very tiny amount of weekly impressions.
    [purple widgets] - this too, gets a very tiny amount of impressions.
    [green widgets] - this gets a moderate amount of impressions.
    [yellow widgets] - this gets a lot of impressions.


    [Blue widgets] and [purple widgets] could just go into their own Ad Group and have an ad that covers them both. However the other 2 (green & yellow) should go into their own Ad Group.

    The same applies for Broad & Phrase really, although I only ever use Broad & Phrase to find out more Exact Matches.

    I don't agree with this 'no more than 20 per ad group' et al. If it's getting impressions to make a difference, then it deserves it's own Ad Group.
     
    muchacho79, Apr 23, 2008 IP