How many higher PR links do you need to make a difference?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by mnymkr, Nov 18, 2006.

  1. #1
    I am just curious. I have found a few good link directories I like and a few blogs that are relevant to my topics.

    How many high PR links do I need to see a good increase in my pageranks?
     
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  2. Mong

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    Would you define ..
    what is "high pr" according to you?
    what is "good increase" in pagerank according to you?:)
     
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  3. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    I still don't know why people get tied up on pagerank when there is a lot of other things to concentrate on.
     
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    When I am starting a site, I like to give it a boost by giving it around 2 PR 6 and 4 PR 5 inbounds. This way it will get spidered regularly and wont penalize it for building links too fast.

    Your page rank can be increased by how well you distribute these links within your site as well.
     
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  5. Dave E

    Dave E Well-Known Member

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    Bob Mtch came up with a pretty cool calculation on his website, he says that 28 PR8 links would yield a PR9, if this theory is correct then 28 PR4 links should yield a PR5 and so on!
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    Well first of all here is where the high pr guys get mixed up. Sometimes you can get more PR value out of a PR3 site than a PR7 site. It depends on relevance of the site, content, link, anchor text and other factors. But as PR means nothing you should focus on relevance for value in ranking.
     
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  8. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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  9. braap

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    Taken directly from Google:

    “Google: Every search engine crawls in a different way. Mentions vs indexed. There are instances where we know about the url, but we did not crawl it. Your site may not have enough PageRank for us to do a deep crawl.”

    Taken from WMW thread:

    "MC has said twice in recent weeks that depth of crawl is dependent on page rank for a start."

    In fact, here is a thread on Digital Point that discusses:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=67337&highlight=crawl+depth+frequency
     
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  10. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    They say that because in a way it is true. PR is the amount of backlinks pointing to your site. And backlinks are what gets the crawlers going and gets you indexed. So it isn't the PR it is the backlinks.
    For illustration purposes. You don't need a speedometer to drive a car yet with one it gives you a idea of how fast your going. It doesn't have any effect on your speed however. This is where many go wrong. They think PR effects rankings and indexing when it doesn't. What effects rankings and indexing also effects PR.
     
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  11. Kyle H.

    Kyle H. Active Member

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    Pagerank measures popularity of a site, that is all. Having link from "popular" sites shows google your site should be popular too. It's like the cool kids in school.... you wanted to hang out with them so you could be "cool" too.
     
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    I think the frequency of the crawl depends more upon the frequency of updates rather than the actual PR. PR I believe is just more of a 'quality verified' stamp, to say 'this site is officially bad, ok, good, great, excellent' etc. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
     
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    #13
    The more the better but my theory is that if you create good content regularly, someone will like your content and link to it.
     
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    I copied this from another forum a few months ago. I'm sorry, but I do not know the source other than the fact that it did not come from Google.

    Regardless of this is realisitic or not I think it makes a good goal. I have never had a site get more visitors because of PR, but they sure do pay better.
     
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    #15
    Here is the url for a more detailed review of what you posted:

    http://www.kenkai.com/google-pagerank-table.htm
     
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    I'm not sure I agree with what they say about the topic of the site having to do with how much PR is passed on. As someone else said, PR is a numerical value that is passed from other pages irrespective of the theme (relevancy is taken into account in other parts of Google's algorithm). Here is another chart: http://www.compar.com/PR.htm.
     
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    #17
    compars article is one of the best i have seen in a long time. thanks for the link
     
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  18. mnymkr

    mnymkr Well-Known Member

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    So is pagerank even that important? What if you have a super quality site with no real links because you didn't bait them?
     
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  19. BrianR2

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    PageRank in itself isn't important. It can be used as an indicator of the quality of backlinks and backlinks are crucial. You won't get anywhere without some quality backlinks.
     
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    FOr me, I have bought many good high pr5 site from relevant sites, most than 30 inbound links over 6 months and now i could see my site is ranking high for pretty competitive keywords (around 170 millions result) i.e. on the second page.

    So my suggestion is to get as much inbound link as possible, in the range of more than 40.
     
    toby, Dec 4, 2006 IP