I don't know why some of you guys are against owning firearms. It is in the Constitution that it is our "right" to carry a gun. I feel safer having a gun at home. I know that if something happens, I can use it and increase my odds of survival. Americans love their guns, and I do to. I can't wait to get me a rifle with a scope. I'm going to the shooting range to practice. Owning or wanting to own a gun doesn't make you a violent person. If just makes you a citizen that wants to protect their family without relying on cops who always get there after the fact.
Yo-yo wrote: So you need to carry a gun in public to enjoy freedom is this a local thing? i just don't understand this statement. Tesla wrote: Just keep it indoors Tesla no need for playing the cowboy on the streets. Constitution...''right''...it's just a piece of paper.
FBI Uniform Crime Report (1992) shows that 70% of violent crimes are committed by 7% of criminals, many of whom are on probation or are given parole and released early. Of incarcerated felons surveyed by the Department of Justice, 34% have been driven away, wounded, or captured by armed citizens; 40% state that they have decided against committing crimes for fear their would-be victims were armed. The FBI's statistics also concluded: "Violent crime rates are highest overall in states with laws limiting or prohibiting the carrying of concealed firearms for self-defense. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry
That's fundamentally flawed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that the states which limit or prohibit the carrying of firearms only do so because they have a firearm problem in the first place.
Nice. This from the guy who quotes Wikipedia But it's cool you bring personal insults into it... common trait of people who are wrong
Thats the dumbest statement I've read all day. NO, the reason places where people aren't allowed to carry guns have higher crime is because ONLY THE CRIMINALS CARRY GUNS! What part of criminals break the law don't you understand? When you are not allowed to carry guns, do you think gang members and criminals are going to follow the law? Its just a piece of paper that separates the US from other countries where the citizens have to bend over whenever their government tells them to. Countries like Mexico where the cops force you to pay fines just for jaywalking, or Brazil where calling the cops for help can get you killed........
Someone else already figured it out... "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)
Quoting famous people through history don't mean anything and are only meaningfull if the quotes are in the mindset of the person that puts it forward to try to justify their thoughts thinking if it derives from a famous person of worlds history the legality of their views are being proven in their advantage. Just my oppinion.
You just agreed with me? I suggest you read what I wrote before you try and insult me. I said: "the states which limit or prohibit the carrying of firearms only do so because they have a firearm problem in the first place" For people with lower IQ: State has gun problem - State limits gun use - Criminals in state still have guns - People think guns are good because states which limit guns have criminal problem You said: NO, the reason places where people aren't allowed to carry guns have higher crime is because ONLY THE CRIMINALS CARRY GUNS! Which is a retarded version of what I said, retarded because, it's clear that criminals aren't the only ones who carry guns if you would've bothered to have read this thread. Anyway, I'm tired of debating with people who contradict themselves and people who can't read. For the record, Will.Spencer have you ever thought about how stupid this sentence is? "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." So, tell that to all the people on this board who are against nuclear weapons. Being a jew, Freud would've changed that sentence if he would've lived 6 years longer through the holocaust.
And stating that a shotgun won't go through a sheet rock wall was not "stupid"? Again I ask you, will you come over and let me test your assertion? I have double ought buck and bird shot 7.5. The bird shot is only low brass lead and I guaran-damn-T you, you will die from either!
Yes, because of the nick name "scatter gun" one would think that you'd have a better shot with a shot gun then a rifle due to one projectile versus, in a shot gun shell, many projectiles. However, the shell and shot gun manufacturing will dictate how effective the theory can be. If you've ever patterned a shot gun, you will find that the "scatter" needs space to occur in. Most homes are not large enough to allow then beads fired from a shot shell too expand much. At 15 yards a modified choke 28" shotgun barrel only scatters double ought buck to a circle of about 15 inches. It's better then one single bullet, but still no guarantee of a hit at close range. You will however scare the living shit out of most anyone you fire at, hit or miss from the noise and muzzle flash. Have fun. Gun Control is Hitting your Target!
I'll get a gun as soon as we have a mayor who is not into 'gun control' thingy, which is probably never going to happen. We've had dozens of armed home invasions in my area - not something likely to happen where people own guns. The police advises to give up your valuables without resisting. I'm wondering if they might be on payroll, as well as the mayor. I'd get an illegal gun if I could, since I do have expensive stuff that can be stolen
There is alot you can do beyond a gun for personal home protection. I suggest you look into such. A home invasion is about impossible to plan for. Even a heavily armed citizen could be caught off guard and not be able to access a firearm for protection. A gun is a last resort. You do not produce a gun to "scare" someone. If you have felt threatened enough to produce a gun, you had better use it with deadly force. Think about it. Could you kill someone? You won't know till the time comes, that I assure you.
I am aware of that, but you can practice. Like, go hunting. If you've killed a rabbit you are better mentally prepared to shoot at a man. Anyway, since gun is not an option, it doesn't make much difference in my case. I do have some pepper sprays, and, uh, other stuff (even that is class A misdemeanor here)
Read my post again. I did not state that a "a shotgun won't go through a sheet rock wall" I stated that "they do not penetrate drywall well", in response to (as compared to) a "a rifle with a scope on it" from a previous poster. Please, learn to read and try to get your random emotional outbursts in check.
I disagree. We have used the harvesting of animals to drive home the permanance of death by firearm to children. In my experience it makes them more thoughtful of the consequence of using a firearm against something, death. Thus they are more likely to consider, thoughtfully and objectively, as to when and if they will kill. Presentation is everything however in training. You can create killing drones from humans with the proper training as well.
OK... The best home protection weapon, IMO, Bar none, is the Mossburg 500 combo. It sports an 18 inch barrel with a pistol grip. It accomdates five three inch shot shells in the magazine. And it will penatrate drywall.