>>> how many chances has the Microsoft WM7 to survive the Android tsunami??? >>>

Discussion in 'Bing' started by Gaetano Marano, Dec 3, 2010.

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    all market experts say that only two-three mobile OSs may survive in future

    one of them surely will be Android while the second (but in a niche) will be iOS

    personally, I think that only the RIM OS has some chances to become the #3 (in a second niche) thanks to the large installed base

    so, I think, that, the Microsoft WM7 phones and OS will be discontinued within two years and will reach the Microsoft KIN to the hi-tech cemetery

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    maxgates Well-Known Member

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    Obviously WP7 can't compete against Android. I don't think that even iOS stand any chance against Android because Apple has failed to make any impact on emerging countries where Android is leading. RIM is a strong player in emerging countries which will keep it at third place. However don't count out Nokia just yet.

    There is only one thing that Microsoft can do in case WP7 fails, buy either Nokia or HTC. Its a gamble which could work.
     
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Well, smart phone owners show very little brand loyalty. They more interested in features so all any of them need to do is add features that people want. So where the "market experts" get their ideas from is questionable.
     
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    Android beats the wm7 in every way.
     
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    News yesterday is that Android has 50% of the market share of smartphones in China last quarter. WM7 has a lot to catch up.
     
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    WM7 has come out too late, when Android is really shining and beating all competition. No one gives a damn about symbian now, and although I've read positive reviews of some WM7 smartphones, WM7 will have a tough time catching up
     
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    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    As I've said a few weeks ago, the financial newspapers are all saying institutional investors have no faith in Microsoft's ability to do well in the mobile market and are leaving in droves.
     
    drhowarddrfine, Dec 4, 2010 IP
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    You are wrong about symbian. Its still pretty much alive in Asia and somewhat in Europe as well. But yes in USA its dead.

    WP7 has come without copy paste and multitasking feature. Microsoft says it will add these features later through an update. Its like Ferrari telling you, take the car and we will send 2 tires sometime later.
     
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    Being late to market with an underachieving product is not new for M$ yet in many cases they have turned those products into success stories. Yes, there are probably more that ultimately failed but that is because M$ chose to let it die.

    IMO wp7 will succeed *if* M$ chooses to put its full weight and commitment behind it. The fact that it can be the 'corporate' device of choice for integration with the *enterprise* is a major advantage. It's not close yet, but it can be. It is all about how much M$ wants it.
     
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    Besides Windows, Office and XBox, there are none. Yes, they have other products they make a lot of money from current Windows users with but nothing else they make is anywhere near as successful as anyone else.
    That sounds like a good excuse. "We didn't fail. We just let it die!". lol
    Now don't tell us MS is uncommitted to wp7.
     
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    yes, some think that Microsoft should do that, and I agree, it's the last chance to try to climb the smartphone market share


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    yes, I believe that, within two-three years, the new phones market will be shaped this way:

    90% Android/ChromeOS

    5% iOS

    5% RIM OS and others

    Symbian and WM7 will be dead


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    yes, and WM7 has also a primitive GUI


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    yes, and ChromeOSmobile will be even better


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    and great part of profits come from Windows7 that could be killed soon by ChromeOS


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    Last year, I said that if ChromeOS came out this year, by the end of 2012, most of us would be using ChromeOS in some way. Unfortunately, we now know ChromeOS won't be out till the end of next year.
     
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    You are wrong. Android will definitely lead the market but the numbers you have shared are way off. Android is leading in Asia but its not that dominant in Europe and US against iOS to claim 90% marketshare. Your projection of RIM is again wrong. RIM is manage to hold on to 15 to 20% share because of growing popularity in Asia. And as I said earlier don't count Symbian out just yet.


    ChromeOS is a cloud based lightweight OS which will run on notebook only. Google has designed it for Enterprise. It will store data online therefore ChromeOS will require Internet Connection all the time. Therefore its not gonna succeed in South America and large parts of Asia. It will only use online applications therefore gamers won't use it and people who use Photoshop and other softwares aren't likely to use it as well.

    ChromeOS is designed primary for checking emails, uploading images, browsing etc using Google products and few other online services. The main idea is to win over Enterprise users with such requirements by offering them fast and safe OS.The problem for ChromeOS is that people with such requirements have already find a great gadget - the iPad. Not to mention that very small number of Enterprise gives notebook to their employees and now they are more interested in iPad.

    Several experts have said that ChromeOS is late and Google has misread the market. Also Google's claim of winning over 60% enterprise users from Windows is the most popular joke around in IT industry.
     
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    I think WM7 has no chance at all. at least for the year 2011. after that competition will decide, but both will still be a necessary.
     
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    Besides Windows, Office and XBox there are no Microsoft success stories? That's ridiculous. (and no don't ask me to list them). By your definition making money is not a success unless the product makes near what others do. Right.... :rolleyes:

    Remember when MS had no browser at all? Navigator was pretty much the only game in town. Within just 2 -3 years, IE dominated the market. We all know it was free and vendors had their arms broken to install it, and the whole big story but that was one example of MS determination.

    That's my point. If MS is determined to be a player in the smartphone market, they will.
     
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    I won't cause you can't even name one.
    By your terms, Windows phone is a success because it makes money. :rolleyes:
    And underhanded thuggery that got them fined $2billion dollars and placed under federal oversight to this day. Criminals like Microsoft can get a lot of things done using strong arm tactics but Microsoft got caught.
    The financial markets don't think they will and are selling Microsoft stock in droves as I linked to elsewhere but your comment is, uh, not well thought out. You are saying, then, that Microsoft is undetermined to be a player in the smartphone market because they just don't feel like it?
     
    drhowarddrfine, Dec 6, 2010 IP