How long before the US invades Pakistan

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by PaulSch, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #21
    I don't need to play anything dude, your words speak for themselves..

    And what your chart is supposed to prove? Russian GDP(PPP) is 2.2 trillion? As opposed to China's 10 trillion? Was it supposed to prove my point? Well, in that case, thanks for researching..
     
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  2. boblord666

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    #22
    Never.

    Pakistan has big guns too and has friends with big guns like China. How would the US justify a war against a country based on the fact that in a small part of the country is a very small number of bad people. Co-operation between the two would be a good thing.
     
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  3. PaulSch

    PaulSch Active Member

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    #23
    Thanks ApocalypseXL. Glad to see that the thread has desended once again into personal abuse. The classic response of a true intellectual.

    For your information, it is impossible to have "a war on terror" - terrorists, terrorism, counties harbouring terrorists or percieved to harbour them, yes, but on an abstract concept - it´s impossible. It´s just a moronic sound bite dreamt up by two discredited polititians and their mouthpieces to justify their unjustifiable actions.

    Had they been less gung-ho, and kept an eye on the US & UK economies instead of their popularity ratings. the world wouldn´t be in the economic mess it´s in now.

    Then of course, Baby Bush wouldn´t know an economy if it bit his arse, all he was interested in was finishing what his daddy didn´t do first time around.


    JFYI - I am not exactly a terrorist lover - I just don´t like half-witted polititians using terrorism and terrorists as an excuse for deflecting attention away from the god awful mess they are creating at home.
    History should have told the US that it was never, ever, ever going to succeed in Afghanistan - did they learn nothing from Vietnam? Afghanistan may have been, as it always has, full of feuding, infighting tribes and ever changing loyalties, but, they always pull together against a common foe - in this case the invading US.
     
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    laxman363 Active Member

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    #24
    Dunno what you want to say but WMDS is a stupid excuse to attack iraq. If they had WMDS why did not they use it against America instead of choosing to die in thousands.

     
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  5. boblord666

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    #25
    History will not look kindly on the US actions of the past 10 years. Maybe I should say 40 years.
     
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    #26
    Vietnam War - Cambodia - Air America intervention that is very kind.

     
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  7. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #27
    You forgot that history is written by the victors .
     
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    viny30 Active Member

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    #28
    the idea of hitting Pakistan is not a bad if you look at its current state. Assault by US would lead to it disintegration. People in Pak are fed up as it is dominated by just one community i.e the Punjabis is the north eastern part of the country. I think the Baluch, Pashtu and Sindhis would support the Americans to topple the Pak army..just like Northen alliance in Afghanistan was backed by US after 9/11, same would happen and many new forward looking country would come into existence. Look at Bangladesh it is doing far better than when it was under Pakistan...
     
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  9. boblord666

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    #29
    History will be rewritten by Wikileaks and the governments release of classified documents. Takes time but the truth eventually wins out.
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Or it will unify the country against the USA which is already not very popular in public.
     
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  11. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #31
    Another Julian Assange supporting Aussie? Lets see if you have a better grasp of the facts than Bushranger. Three questions:

    1) Can you name one piece of "history" about the US made known by Wkileaks that was not already widely suspected to be true?
    2) Can you name a single crime committed by our government that was exposed by Wikileaks?
    3) Would you categorize the Wikileaks cable releases more historically informative, or more of an effort to weaken the US, after weighing truthful answers to #1 and #2 against the newly created appearance that the US cannot keep it's allies secrets?

    Arrive at logical and truthful answers to those three questions, and you will realize why Manning will be in prison for a very long time, and why Assange is widely hated in the US.
     
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    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    #32
    The US doesn't need another war, the first one was overly successful.

    [video=youtube;2B_SxGmSJP0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B_SxGmSJP0[/video]
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Which is why we are all paying 35 cents a gallon for gas here in the US... :rolleyes:
     
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  14. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #34
    It wasn't about you (the consumer) ever.. It was about the Oil industry, the corporations..


    On the side note: Anyone happen to watch a 2006 documentary - Who killed the Electric Car?
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Oh yeah , of course.. Cause all those mean nasty oil companies are making a fuck ton of cash now as a result too...
     
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  16. boblord666

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    #36
    1. Widely suspected is not history. The cables and documents were proof of events. Wikileaks did not write any of it.
    2. If you believe that your government is in the end completely responsible for every action of every citizen, then the shooting of innocent Iraqis by the helicopter was exposed by Wikileaks. Details of what I regard as war crimes in Afghanistan were also exposed by Wikileaks. Once again they didn't do the crime or write the reports.
    3. Wikileaks is the messenger. The US, as usual, has taken it personally. The cables and documents released referenced all countries - most, if not all, of whom have coped remarkably well. Love it when the US claims victim.

    Hope you are happy with the fact that your government can keep an person in prison without charges for however long they want.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #37
    So to clarify your answers:

    1) No, you can't
    2) No, you can't
    3) Couldn't answer #1 and #2, so you dissembled your ignorance by presenting lame excuses for Assange and Manning.

    Grab a clue. The only people Wikileaks caused long term damage to were outside of the US. Named US sympathizers in the ongoing Afghan conflict, Pakistan, the Saudi Kingdom, Egypt, Australia(Reading our intel reports on your government was good for a laugh or two). The only thing bordering on criminality was the Obama admin spying on UN delegates, which the global community wrote off(If you ain't spyin, you aint tryin).

    Is it that Assange is an Aussie that makes him so messianic in your eyes? Seriously, I just don't get it. The guy creates chaos around the planet, causes thousands of deaths, what is the upside? Do you think you can explain even a single thing that made it all worthwhile? For Manning? For any of the dead in the Arab Spring, which Manning's documents helped fuel? Your previous post utterly failed to describe a crime or a piece of unknown information exposed by Wikileaks. Why don't you give it another shot.

    We could send them back to their nation's of origin to be executed. Is that what you are lobbying for?
     
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  18. boblord666

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    #38
    PROVE that the wikileaks release of information has caused ONE death.

    The worst thing they have done is embarrass governments.

    Yep, even Australians thought it was good for a laugh. The politicians, well most didn't say anything, one did say "The nice things they say about me are true, the bad things are untrue."

    I was talking about Manning. If you are talking about your lovely prison housing all these terrorists well the Aussie media take after the release of documents was " Well, we really haven't got much to worry about, have we."
     
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  19. ApocalypseXL

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    #39
    LOL to bad that they have so many back-ups otherwise i would have fried their servers just to prove that they are a gang of looser hackers that only did this for fame . This is why they exposed the USA instead of exposing the secret files of Gaddafi or the Royal Saudi Family . If anything they got payed to hack and bribe .

    If the future will be dominated by China or by the Jihadists then you can expect that the USA won't be looked kindly but then it won't matter to much since we'll either be slaves or exterminated .
     
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  20. boblord666

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    #40
    Always good to read a positive view of the world. Enjoy your apocalypse.
     
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