How legal are page rank checkers?

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Napoleon, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. #1
    Are seo tools like page rank, backlink and search engine position checkers legal?
     
    Napoleon, Jun 8, 2010 IP
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    Why would you imagine them to be illegal?
     
    contentboss, Jun 9, 2010 IP
  3. Napoleon

    Napoleon Peon

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    Isn't it against google TOS to check for page rank from anything other than their toolbar?
     
    Napoleon, Jun 10, 2010 IP
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    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    Where is it mentioned in their TOS?
     
    wptheme, Jun 18, 2010 IP
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    It's against Google's TOS unless you have permission - or the software developer has an agreement:

    http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66357"]http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66357

    Google's Terms of Service do not allow the sending of automated queries of any sort to our system without express permission in advance from Google. Sending automated queries absorbs resources and includes using any software (such as WebPosition Goldâ„¢) to send automated queries to Google to determine how a website or webpage ranks in Google search results for various queries.
     
    11114444, Jun 21, 2010 IP
  6. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #6
    When did Google start writing laws?

    It may be against Google terms of service but that hardly makes it illegal. Private corporations do not have law making authority, although some behave as though they do.

    Lastly, it sounds like you are asking if using (as opposed to operating) a non-Google page rank check is illegal. The answer again, is obviously no. There appears to be nothing remotely illegal about using a third-party page rank checker.
     
    browntwn, Jun 26, 2010 IP
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    Google starting writing laws when they owned 65% of the market share. :) Askjeeves.com is available without any laws.
     
    11114444, Jun 29, 2010 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I guess there are many people who willingly submit to Google's "authority", oh well.
     
    browntwn, Jun 29, 2010 IP
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    brpwmtwn = they are the only game in town. If you have a plan b, I would jump in 1st. What do you recommend to avoid dealing with google's dominance? At least they work. Bing & yahoo are pathetic.
     
    11114444, Jun 29, 2010 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Of course I want my sites in Google, and they are. I don't care if I follow any particular search engines guidelines - that is all I am saying. If Google doesn't like it they don't have to index my sites, but that is about all they can do. Well, if you have a site getting shit traffic following their rules then you hardly have anything to lose trying new things that may not be G approved techniques. Frankly, I don't bother reading their "webmaster guidelines" so I wouldn't know if what I do is in compliance with their "rules" or not. The point is I don't care.

    Please note I am talking about just having random websites rank in the Google search results. If I am working under a contract with Google, such as with Adsense, I would of course stay in compliance with my obligations under any agreement. There is however, a big distinction when you have agreed to act in a certain way and when you have not.
     
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    only trust official google rank rank in google toolbar
     
    dave_85, Jun 29, 2010 IP
  12. Napoleon

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    I was asking if creating a page-rank checker is legal or not. Using a tool that breaks their TOS may not be illegal, but offering one that helps others break a company's terms may be.
     
    Napoleon, Jun 30, 2010 IP
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    #13
    on what basis? Where is the 'crime' being committed? For something to be illegal, it has to infringe a law, and Google, last time I looked, had no authority to create 'laws'.
     
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    Google can ban your adsense account if you violate their TOS. Using a product not approved by Google to check page rank is a clear violation of TOS.

    seobook.com has a free firefox plugin for approved Google page rank checkinng. Aaron Wall runs the site. The ratings are dated but still very good.
     
    11114444, Jun 30, 2010 IP
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    $300 a month? What stats is this related to?
     
    wptheme, Jul 1, 2010 IP
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    wptheme - it's free at seobook.com. It's just a firefox plugin. It doesn't work perfect, but it's free. :)
     
    11114444, Jul 1, 2010 IP
  17. wptheme

    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    Well then what about the SEOquake I am using? Also I have yet to find a FF plugin that you need to pay to use :)
     
    wptheme, Jul 1, 2010 IP