How is this done?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Michael, Jun 6, 2004.

  1. #1
    Hi all, new forum member here.

    Does anyone recognize this technique used here www.personalroses.com/resources-personalroses-4/willshire-floral-arrangements.html ?

    There are nearly 50,000 pages like this presumably auto generated - is it done with a known product?

    - Michael
     
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  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #2
    It looks like they are getting it from a search engine. I bet there are some scripts out there that do it for you, although I don't know of any myself. It wouldn't be too difficult to do something like that.
     
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  3. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #3
    They are using a promotion company for
    so I'm guessing that they've set up the spam pages.

    There are link promotion companies out there that aim to do just this.

    Personally I haven't taken this approach and I get f'ed off when I search and hit them so I can't see how it helps the company.

    Sarah
     
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  4. Michael

    Michael Raider

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    #4
    Of course but the question is how? One or two ok but tens of thousands with <title> & meta's must be a script.

    As Shawn says not to difficult to write a script but I have never come across this idea before and would like to know if anyone else has.

    The script presumably does something like:

    1. Spider every page on all competing sites.

    2. Identify every pertinent key phrase.

    3. Perform a search on every key phrase and grab the SERPs as text.

    4. Generate a page for every key phrase with only links to the target site.

    Is that the concept?

    - Michael
     
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  5. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #6
    it's interesting in a way, but it also seems almost completely pointless..

    what're they gaining from this, really?
     
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    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    what're they gaining from this, really?

    How about 50,000 backlinks?
     
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  8. vinyl

    vinyl Well-Known Member

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    how about ban because of spamming or content abusing?
     
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  9. compar

    compar Peon

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    #9
    Their home page is only PR5 and Google only reports 149 backlinks. But they are #1 for a search on personals roses and are also #1 for 'allinanchor: personal roses'. (note I had to insert the space in the allinanchor: example because a ':' followed by a 'p' produces a smilie.)

    Proof again that you don't need a high PR or a lot of high quality backlinks to rank #1. You just need a ton of IBL with the right anchor text.

    Edit addition:

    Upon further thought these pages are not IBLs but actually internal links. They have a about 3,000 links that I would guess are reciprocal on their links page, so this is not the only technique they are using.

    You may not approve of the site, but it is interesting to study. They have done a lot of things and done them rather well to achieve their ranking.
     
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    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    That's a bucket load of backlinks alright, and testament to the power of anchor text. Of course they (naturally) rank quite well for all thier competitors names/terms too. It's nothing new (feed G it's own content - been done a thousand times) - Oh, BTW, those pages appear to be static (unless they've removed the X-Powed-By: xyz field in the servers response header).

    I'm just waiting for them to discover botfeed.com {there goes the neighbourhood evil-:D}
     
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    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #11
    Yeah quite right.
    Reporting would guarantee short work of them. I however won't pander to G's watchdog program (perpetuated by most seo forums actually - the human side of the equation so to speak)

    Business is business though.. if anyone reading this thread chooses to act, they'll definitely see results (in my experience anyway).

    :)
     
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  12. vinyl

    vinyl Well-Known Member

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    #12
    i doubt there is some big thing to study in those pages mentioned here, and i cannot say i can approve such an approach... whatever else they might be using... it may look as a hard work or 'interesting to see', still, its pure spam and that site deserves to be banned from more reasons... especialy the one that motivates people to do the same stuff... hint: http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html :)
     
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    Just looking at the pages it appears whatever they are using is also used by a site to achieve 1-2 rankings for a VERY competitive term, although they at least keep the links active.

    Ethically/morally it might tread a fine line but then I don't believe it to be spamming. What's the difference between this and a site that is purely a directory that some-one sets up with the intention being to end up with a lot of pages and get a backlink benefit from it, to one of their other sites?
     
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    i dont know, maybe the approval for listing them into instead of automaticaly grabbing data from SE's? otherwise its the same sh1t.
     
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    #15
    Its a good way of improving their total links- but not sure if I'd feel right taking this approach.
     
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    vinyl Well-Known Member

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    #16
    destination doesnt justify means - it's a bad way of improving their total links... i doubt that what they did is not enough to get penalized... maybe im wrong but what might they get at the end if just one wise guy reports them?
     
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