How is the bible credible?

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  1. Roman

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    #61
    Having faith in God does not mean you have to accept the bible as 100% accurate, I just do not believe that a Bible written by humans can be that accurate.
     
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    #63
    Well no, you cannot follow the Bible 100%. That would mean you are perfect, which no one is.

    Well believe it. It was written by humans who were divinely inspired. I don't understand whats not to believe.
     
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    #64
    Perhaps the manner in which the thread was started wasn't really the intention?

     
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    #65
    depends on which one you use...I prefer the original greek and hebrew myself...however, it is commonly the practice to use the NRSV as the standard, as it was originally done by the world council of churches. Most of those versions use the different definitions for words. A word in greek could have 4 different english translations, hence the differences. I tend to go for versions that have more than 1 or 2 editors or compilers, that way there is at least a consensus of what the original text says.

    Have to disagree with you on that one...most biblical scholars actually don't like that version. I would go with the Jewish translation for the OT, and the Nestle Aland translation for the NT.
     
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    #66
    You can follow the Bible 100% with time, effort and study. Does not mean you are perfect at all. No one is perfect except God and Jesus. Adam and Eve were once perfect but lost that through disobedience.

    Oh! Another thing that is perfect is God's will.

    Col :)
     
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    #67
    Let's focus on the word 'translation'

    translation

    noun

    A restating of something in other, especially simpler, words: paraphrase, rendering, restatement, version. See words.
    The process or result of changing from one appearance, state, or phase to another: change, changeover, conversion, metamorphosis, mutation, shift, transfiguration, transformation, transmogrification, transmutation, transubstantiation. See change/persist.

    Now what stand out to me are the words: restating,version,change, changeover, conversion, etc.

    The translation was performed by humans and I have not yet met one that is infallable.
     
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    #68
    Those "most" biblical scholars would not know their left foot from their right foot. Anyone can see for themselves the accuracy in translation from the Emphatic Diaglott.

    Col :)
     
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    #69
    Well what I meant to say is that you can follow it but you can't do everything it is. If you did, then you would be sinless which is impossible.
     
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    #70
    :) So is the Bible written by divine individuals representing the true word of God? You seem to be arguing over which version to use. Did God dictate more than one version?
     
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    #71
    Well that's not true either. We are all sinners because we are all imperfect and we die in the end of our life. That is what sin is "missing the mark", imperfect. Most people think sin is an action word and that only. A lot of churches use that as a guilt trip on parishioners to pay for your sins by offering the plate around and frown on you if you don't put up.

    I think you need to study the Bible more my friend.

    Col :)
     
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    #72

    Actually they do...you would be surprised how smart but yet down to earth they are...point is, there is no one "best translation"...the nrsv is the most widely accepted, as it was developed by the society of Biblical Literature, with Wayne Meeks as the general editor (Meeks is probably one of the best translators out there).
     
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    #73
    There have been many translations which leads to more versions.
     
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    #74
    Actually, the truth of the matter is I can use most Bible translations in my preaching. I am just saying the NWT is the most accurate and easiest to use. The translation does not change what the Bible actually teaches.

    Col :)
     
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    #75
    So that goes back to my point on the inheritent problem with the bible, translation.
     
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    #76
    Just curious, do you know greek and hebrew?
     
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    #77
    Ah, but here is where you are blatently wrong. God ordered Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac.
     
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    #78
    That was a test of Abraham's integrity. He did not make him go through it.

    Col :)
     
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    #79
    Quoted for truth.
     
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    #80

    Did you see my question? just curious, but do you know greek and hebrew?
     
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