Hi There, I have just put together a new website over the weekend: New Zealand Photograhy I believe I am pretty good at marketing and SEO, but perhaps web design isn't my cup of tea! (As you can possibly see) Anyway, most of the site has the same template with every page linking to every other page including a Links Directory: Links Directory I am trying to get my BLs to my main website, which then links to the Links Directory. Does anybody out here know how the PR will be shared between the main and sub-domain. Ex: If I get a PR5 (say) with the next update, would that mean that the sub-domain will be a PR4 like the other internal pages? Or, would be it be a PR0 because it's a separate sub-domain?? Or more?
It is my understanding that subdomains are like seperate domains. You have to get backlinks to them in order for them to develope a page rank of their own. It is generally easier and quicker to get a folder to rank well than a sub domain. Shannon ----------- Are others seeing same results as JoeO below? I just put a new web in a subfolder for did not want to work on gathering links for subdomain. S
I launched a subdomain on my website about a month or so before the last PR update. At the time of the update the only link going to the subdomain was from my main site, my main site got a PR5 and the subdomain was PR4. So in my case it does seem like it was treated the same as the internal pages.
Makes sense to me. You point a PR5 page at it and you'll get (most likely) a 3 or a 4. Possibly a 5 if its a strong enough link.
so, just to get the discussion turning a little, is www.domain.com looked at as a seperate domain than just plain domain.com? Does the www. preference receive any special consideration from the engines?
I have added recently two subdomains and the PR was not passed from the main domain as far I know. I have to work on the subdomains PR seperately.
So, you reckon that if I leave things as they are ....... I should get PR-1 from my main website. It's a strange set-up actually, as most of the outbound links would be from the links directory (the sub-domain) and most of the BLs will point to the main website. I'll be pretty keen to see what happens with the next update.
Yes, I'd be interested in hearing what Shawn thinks as well. Its been my experience that PR is passed on a page-by-page basis, and has no concern for domain at all. -Tyson
re: domain.com versus www.domain.com Eventually, Google and other search engines do figure out on their own that these two are the same site. TOPS30 is right, however: If you have backlinks using both versions and you want to speed up that process, you can redirect the domain.com to www.domain.com.
this is my experience as well. it's also why subdomains still might make sense instead of buying a new domain... after all there is no sandbox for subdomains.
I have tested this, and subdomains are treated seperately. However, most people link from their primary domain to their subdomain, which causes some PR transfer just like a normal link, giving the subdomain 1 PR lower than the linking page (generally). To test this, create a subdomain on your site, with no backlinks, and wait for an update. You'll get no PR. Now, add a single backlink from your root domain site to the subdomain and at the next PR update you'll get some PR. Its just simple link rules that get followed just like everwhere else. DS
Thanks for the feedback so far. Apart from a few directory listings for the sub-domain, most of the other BLs that I have got are linking to the main site. So, I suppose in my case most of the PR would be transferred from the links from my main site to the sub-domain. I'll post the new PRs once there's an update.
Yes. It's as simple as this. In Google's eyes, a subdomain is a separate website. The subdomain can obviously have a higher PR, as long as it gets more links with higher total incoming PR. No need to do testing etc. They are separate. As far as transferring goes, it the same story again. Doesn't even matter where you link to it will transfer PR as with all other links. So for PR it doesn't matter where you put the links directory.
The search engines do consider subdomains as separate entities to the extent that they consider domains at all, which is very limited. Let's keep in mind that a page's domain is unrelated to its PageRank score, except in terms of potential penalties. PageRank is determined on a page-by-page basis, so any given page can get a higher PageRank score than any other page, and their respective parent domains are irrelevant in this regard.
No reason why it should not. I believe it depends on how much work we put into link building. Shannon
Yes, PR is for page rank, not domain, nor site rank. Every page has its own PR. If you link a PR5 page to another, this not necessarily will get PR4; if the linking page has a weak PR, such as 5.03 it might not ensure PR4, more chances instead if it has PR 5.97. And even then, a page receiving a link from that PR 4 page might not make it to PR 3, and so on... But it is the way to expect PR to spread down to lower level pages or out to external pages, more or less.