How hard would it be to rank for this keyword...

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by GreenDog, Apr 7, 2009.

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    How hard would it be to rank for this keyword: "cat foods" without quotes.

    Scale 1-10:

    Difficulty:
    Length of time with link building:

    THANKS a MILLION!

    Add: keywords are in the domain.
     
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  2. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    It all depends on the site - the actual name, the age, PR (quality of backlinks). Although "cat foods" isn't real competitive, "cat food" is (and with stemming in google) - it's going to be difficult to not possible (for a new site). When you say "rank" I am assuming you are talking about the top ten, because anything lower isn't going to bring much traffic. You're competing against PR5 - PR7 sites - authority sites like Purina.
     
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  3. GreenDog

    GreenDog Active Member

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    Yeah I know cat food is going to be out of the picture (for right now) but "cat foods" seems like it can be done and still gets some traffic.
     
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    very competitive keyword
     
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  5. GreenDog

    GreenDog Active Member

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    Just to make it clear... I am talking about: "cat foods" and not "cat food"
     
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    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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    "cat foods" would be easy to rank for. "cat food" is a different story.
     
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  7. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    But google uses stemming, which means it is going to return sites that target "cat food" when you search for "cat foods".
     
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  8. GreenDog

    GreenDog Active Member

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    Then why are the search results totally different?

     
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  9. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    They don't appear "totally different" on my search, although you can variances in positioning and results. The first 6 search results for both keyword include:

    purina.com
    consumersearch.com
    about.com

    Take a look at the top ten search results for whatever keyword you want to target, that is your competition. This is going to be a difficult keyword to rank in the top ten for unless you have an established site with a lot of authority links. No one can give you an exact answer on how much time is going to be involved - most of the success is going to be based on your ability to get authority links - not some link exchanges or submitting to free directories. If you own "catfoods.xxx" it will certainly make it easier.

    Domain name
    Age of Domain
    Quality of Backlinks
     
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  10. GreenDog

    GreenDog Active Member

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    I own catfoodsreviews.com

    I want to focus on three keywords:

    cat food review
    cat food reviews
    cat foods

    Thanks for the info.
     
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  12. GreenDog

    GreenDog Active Member

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    Thanks.... I also noticed when you take the "s" out it jumps up to 154,000 which makes sense.
     
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    According to Google, in the USA the monthly searches are:

    cat food 550,000 montlhy searches
    cat foods 49,500
    dry cat food 33,100
    canned cat food 27,100
    cat food natural 22,200
    diet cat food 22,200

    https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

    I guess you should go for CAT FOOD

    Irs hard, but no THAT much.
    In my experience, usually keywords are harder depending on the number of montlhy searches. 550,00 is a nice number, but not THAT biger as many others.
     
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    If you take monthly searches as the criterion then "cat food" is much tougher than it looks, much much tougher.
     
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    I think you should go for a long tail keyword than cat food because this keyword takes alot of effort so try to get the traffic from similar long tail keywords...
     
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  16. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    "In my experience"

    In your "experience", just how many of your sites ranks in the top ten for a keyword with 550,000 searches? I'll bet the number is just short of zero.
     
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    You are right. But I feel he made a typo or is too novice.:) He once said that the search count was 550,000 and at the bottom he said 550,00. Must be typo I feel.
     
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    I think "cat food" is too abroad. At least 3 words to make it awesome.
     
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    Im not making a debate on this, just want to help.
    But according to Google info, on March this was the searches:

    cat food 673,000
    cats food 74,000
    dry cat food 49,500 ...
    cat foods 12,100
     
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