How far will filthy lying Republican racist candidates go to win an election???

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by earlpearl, Jun 9, 2010.

  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #41

    It would be to good for any of this to be true - for the Democrats.

    One speculation is that Republicans tied to DeMint were involved and if proven could lead to the forced withdraw of DeMint for re-election :) .......surly not.
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #42
    Deficit spending and negative cash on hand during a campaign? Are we talking about Hillary Clinton 2008, or Gregory Brown 2010? I'm confused.
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

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    #43
    Another speculation is that Elvis and Kennedy are living as gay lovers in Cuba.
     
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  4. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Republicans in South Carolina might as well be labeled crooks, liars and cheats. In effect the State enables people to wrap themselves up in the Republican party and then encourages them to publicly exhibit the most odious behavior imaginable.

    The Republican party supports it. Its defenders here support it. So long as they are Republicans.

    In 2000 South Carolina opponents of John McCains campaign for the Republican nomination for President, after he had won the New Hampshire primary, and put a serious threat on the Bush campaign,

    Widely and knowingly spread a rumour that McCain fathered an interracial child. It was a devastating, bold faced lie. It killed McCain's campaign in South Carolina. It opened the door for Bush.

    it was a racist attack of the first order. It was a bold faced lie.

    The Republican dominated State Legislature leads the nation in preventing citizens and tax payers from knowing who votes for what laws. In fact, via voice votes and a process that specifically misrepresents the votes of legisltors not in attendance, it makes their votes impossible to decipher. There is no accountability.

    In 2008 these legislators voted themselves a large increase in retirement benefits. That money comes from taxpayers.

    Who here has the power to increase their own retirement benefits when paid for by taxpayers??

    Nobody could tell who voted for it.

    The system is called theft.

    Now you have a couple of members of the South Carolina Republican party who further distinguish themselves as fine upstanding people to admire.

    Will Folks, a guy who was a spokesman for Governor Sanford (ha ha...the job description must be "be a helluva liar"), and someone who was arrested for domestic abuse, claimed he had an affair with Nikki Haley, candidate for Governor. Then he slinked into oblivion not to be heard of again.

    Then some guy named Marchant, another active South Carolina Republican, who had been arrested for a DWI made the same claim. He had an affair with Nikki Haley. Then he slunk into oblivion.


    No right thinking person would ever make that claim other than being paid to do so. No human with a modicum of self respect and respect for the well being of the Haley children would ever claim such a thing.

    Unless of course they are members of the Republican Party in South Carolina: An open invitation to lie cheat and steal and exhibit the worst characteristics in the Human Race.

    South Carolina Republican = disgrace to the human race.

    Republcans and their political supporters here simply support them every step of the way.

    Yup....be a crook. Join the GOP. :D
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

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    #45
    Blahahahaa.... this just keeps getting more awesome.

    The Democrats are questioning Alvin Greene's fitness for office.
    These guys put Hank Johnson and Joe Biden into office and suddenly now they think that maybe they need to bring back the "literacy tests" of the old Democratic south.

    Official police intimidation of anyone brave enough to run for office against an incumbent.

    What effects do you think that will have on participatory democracy? Or is "participation" now to be limited to voting for whomever the party bosses decide to nominate?

    Remember that Hillary was the popular candidate during the last Democratic presidential primary, but she was pushed out of the way by party insiders who favored Obama.

    It appears that "Democrat" is just the name of the party.

    And now we will have a "mental health" test to enter politics? Would that end Howard Dean's political career? Or is Howard exempt because he's rich and white?

    WTF? Seriously. earlpearl, you had better talk to this guy ASAP. He is deviating from your party line.
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #46
    I couldn't agree more. The story is riveting. The whole Southern Democrat political apparatus are tripping over each other to see who can make the most racist and embarassing statement. Its like a slow motion train wreck that just won't end.

    Check out this interview, perhaps the best interview I have seen to date with Greene. Its ETV, so a bit more low key, a bit less confrontational, and you can tell Greene is a bit more relaxed. The reporter also does a much better job at not being a complete prick although you have to love the question he wraps up the interview with.

    [video=youtube;VYtnrvn9xd4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYtnrvn9xd4[/video]

    Some highlights:
    • When the Greene says he can relate to the constituents in South Carolina much more than his [white dixiecrat] opponent, could truer words be spoken?
    • When the interviewer asks Greene how he plans to compete with an opponent[Demint] that has 4 million dollars to spend on this campaign, can't you just statements like that building the support of people who are sick of money in politics determining the outcome? His comment was "Its votes that count, not dollars"
    • Regarding his felony charge, "I'm innocent until proven guilty, thats how we do things in America".
    The whole interview is priceless, but the message coming from the SCDP seems pretty clear:

    "To all negro servicemen in South Carolina. While we appreciate the decades of service to your country, putting your life in harms way to protect your betters, please be aware the Democratic Party does not accept dumb and uppity negros as candidates unless you have at least a two(2) million dollars in liquid assets and have done the proper ass sucking to your betters within the party apparatus. We felt the truth of these words was so obvious, they need not be spoken, but apparently some of you are so stupid, you didn't get the memo. Please be advised that these rules are non-negotiable and we know where you live.

    Thank you,

    Carol Fowler
    South Carolina Democratic Party Chair

    Vic Rawls
    Judge, State Legislator, Grand Wizard"


    Earlpearl, no comment?
     
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  7. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #47
    Further investigation into the criminal activity (formerly called "being a South Carolina Republican" is evidence of the following:

    On the GOP side:

    1. We have Will Folks, a guy with a criminal record for domestic abuse, claiming he had an affair with Nikki Haley. Then he slinks away. No proof. Just typical South Carolina politics played by the Republicans -> more appropriately described as Criminal Behavior.

    2. We discover that Will Folks learned his craft from Rod Shealy, another Republican operative with a criminal past.

    3. Rod Shealy was found guilty for doing the following:

    A) Encouraging a black man convicted of a drug crime, Benjamin Hunt, to run for office as a Democrat:
    1. Shealy offered to pay the guy $900
    2. Shealy paid his filing fee

    After being convicted, found guilty, and fined, Shealy called it a "political parking ticket" and said it increased his political consulting business.

    Such are the ways of South Carolina Republicans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Shealy

    Now of course we have the full blossoming of South Carolina Republicans (known as criminals) on both the Democratic side and the Republican side.

    A. Is this Greene thing not the exact replica of the Benjamin Hunt fiasco? Doesn't it merit research as this is the exact same circumstances as previously when a South Carolina Republican (scum bag crook) manufactured the entire situation.

    B. Has anyone checked where the two South Carolina Republican (scum bag) crooks got the money to make the claims that they had affairs. Cripes, Folks already had a criminal record and he learned his craft from a guy with a criminal past.

    BTW: Obamanation. Maybe you'd like to create a link to your little italicized speech so we could find the source.

    Is this more South Carolina Republican (crookedness) politics? Is this the way you operate? Are you a follower of South Carolina Republicans (aka liars) and is that the typical Modus Operandi for all your claims?
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #48
    OK, so this is an admission that the Democratic side is engaged in criminal activity? I know it is politically useful to marry the term "criminal" and "Republican", but that aside, it sounds like you just professed S.C. Democrats are engaged in criminal activity.

    I don't know, is it the same? ? Do you have evidence it is the same? Investigate away investigators. Present evidence. This is what I've said from my first post. Hurling accusations without any evidence is EXACTLY what your initial complaint in this thread was all about. Why no outrage over the behavior of the Democrats in S.C.?

    Investigate! I personally agree with you, in that scurrilous charges such as theirs should not have been made without evidence, though in all fairness, evidence of an affair is hard to produce, unless you are some sicko that keeps months old sperm on your blue dress because its the president's sperm. Investigate the charges(if you care whether or not she had an affair) and investigate the people who made the charges. I'm in!

    My quoted speech is a product of my own creation. Did you like it? I thought the title "Grand Wizard" next to Vic Rawls name was an especially nice touch. Like most of the rest of my content on this thread, it is blatant race baiting. This activity is normally the hallowed turf of Democrat operatives like Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson, but I though I would step in and fill the gap since they are 100% silent on this issue. The question is, why? Why are they silent? Is this not the deep south? Do we not have a black man who, for all intents and purposes appears to be a legitimate candidate being put down by his white opponent? Is this black man not a 13 year veteran of the US armed services? I see Sharpton and Jackson out marching in Arizona to protect the rights of criminals because many of them aren't white, but on this issue which hits much closer to home you can hear the crickets chirping. Why?

    Given it is the deep south, I'd say the chances of Vic Rawls(or his daddy) actually being a Grand Wizard, are very plausible. Perhaps we need an investigation into that. Did you know Vic Rawls only had 5 or 10% name recognition going into this election? That is outrageously poor. With name recognition like that, I would imagine many voters at the ballot box made their decision based on title(Ex Marine vs Judge/State Legislator). Maybe they flipped a coin. Maybe they chose the first name on the ballot. One thing is certain. Only 5-10% of the people made a decision based on knowledge of who Vic Rawls was. I heard David Axelrod go on the record last night on Meet the Press calling Greene an "illegitimate candidate". Right now, from all I can tell, the Democratic party is working hard at subverting our democracy. You can't get more blatant than trying to overturn the clear results of an election. Its disgusting.
     
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  9. Breeze Wood

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    #49

    Well, Rawl's is determined in finding the facts....really has nothing to lose and Greene probably could use the publicity what little help it might offer.
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  10. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Well O_Nation: That puts you squarely in the South Carolina Republican school of thought -> ugly lying.

    Hopefully there will be investigations with regard to Folks and Marchant. No person with a modicum of self respect and a basic human decency would ever make such a claim. The reason to do so? Some typical South Carolina Republican (aka Crook) paid you to do so.

    As far as the Greene thing goes it is so strange, so bewildering, yet is an exact replica of the aforementioned case where dirt ball Rod Shealy, already convicted, paid the filing fee for someone, just so he could twist an election. That clearly merits an investigation.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #51
    To be fair, I never presented it as anything other than my own. I'm glad you hated it. It definitely represents how I perceive the SCDP.

    Not to be repetitive but, investigate and charge with evidence. The allegations by your friendly racists in the DNC are nothing but slander until they present some evidence.
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

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    #52
    I am most curious as to why Rep. Jim Clyburn (D) is now apparently pointing the finger at members of his own party?

    Vic Rawls was and is such a weak candidate that it's pretty silly to believe that a powerhouse like Jim DeMint would waste $10k on something like this.

    Alvin Green has a much better chance of defeating Jim DeMint than Vic Rawls ever did. The Democratic Party should stand by their man.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #53
    Southern Democrats

    [video=youtube;_oqIP9yagkQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oqIP9yagkQ[/video]
     
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  14. Will.Spencer

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    #54
    That made me laugh soooo... hard.

    Jon Thomson said "His conduct is unbecoming of a member of Congress. It's bad enough that he's joined Obama's assault on North Carolina jobs, but his physical assault on a college student goes beyond the pale." -- but really -- does anything a political does these days surprise anyone? Have we completely lost touch with the entire concept of "being the pale"?

    And I love that the crazy old many says "Who are you! Tell me who you are ... I have a right to know who you are." -- What gives him that right? Nothing. He just thinks he's special because he's a government employee. He's a member of America's self-appointed government aristocracy.

    He's a jackass and he should be an unemployed jackass.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #55
    Rep. Clyburn adds to his groundless accusations. 'Hackers" gave Greene the election. Its the gift that keeps on giving. Will this guy ever shut his mouth?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-hacking-greenes-surprise-win-sc-senate-race/
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #56
    To me, there's not much different between what the two parties DO, they mostly differ in what they SAY. Although the Democrats always do seem to win in the sleeze race.

    But for the ultimate in sleeze, you have to look at the recent South Carolina Democratic Senate primary. Alvin Greene won the primary fair and square. Yes, he's a man of few words, who spent his life savings on the $10,000 registration fee, doesn't own a home, once showed a porn picture to a college student, and was asked to leave the Army. But in the USA, he's allowed to run, and as a African-American, he choose to run for the Senate as a Democrat, ran a campaign on a budget of only $2000, went door-to-door all by himself to get signatures to get on the ballot, and he won the primary, soundly defeating his opponent, Victor Rawl, with nearly 60% of the vote.

    Now, the real hypocrisy begins. Despite powerful and overwhelming evidence that Greene, who barely has a penny to his name, won the election fairly, Rawl, a lawyer and a millionaire, is going to show everyone just what the Democratic party stands for by crushing Greene into oblivion with lawsuits, protests, and vicious attacks. What are the Democrats saying? He's a Republican plant, the voting machines were rigged, how did a nobody get all that money... of course, as of today there is absolutely no evidence that any wrongdoing occurred, and it's likely that Greene won because he has a more friendly name and was first on the ballot.

    But that means nothing to Democrats, because Greene is not beholden to anyone and because for Rawl, this isn't about fair elections, it's about grabbing power by any means necessary and squashing anyone who gets in his way.


    Um, before there can be an investigation, there must be EVIDENCE OF A CRIME. Exactly, what crime was committed? Was it state or federal? What EVIDENCE is there of the crime? Any witnesses? Videotapes? Documentation? Or is it your position that a poor black man defeating a white millionaire judge is sufficient to warrant an investigation? Or do we now investigate people because it doesn't "look right"?

    "The United States Senate. Motto: 'Rich White Men Working for You'"
    - Dave Barry
     
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    #57
    The issues will be resolved, probably with little changed.

    If the voting machines do not have a paper compliment to verify the outcome the courts should find their results invalid and recast the primary for all the elections that took place. The possibility for fraud will always be considered possible otherwise and is shortsighted to have used them in the first pace.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #58
    Uh Breeze, a victory by a margin of 20% does not qualify for a recount by any measure.
     
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    #59
    If the issue is a machine malfunction the hard-copy (paper ballot) will settle the matter. Without a hard-copy the election officials have been shortsighted in the type of machine used that only contributes to the controversy.
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #60
    @BW, the South Carolina State Election Commission has stated that there is absolutely no evidence of any machine malfunction or any election tampering whatsoever. The department has not detected even a hint of fraud or hacking in Tuesday's election and dismissed any charges that the system was at fault.

    The SC State Election Commission issued a statement that said: "We've used this voting system since 2004 and it has always performed as it is designed to perform and it's been accurate and reliable." The 12,000 machines used by South Carolina have been used for "thousands of candidates" and that "no candidate has made this claim before."

    So @BW, stop making things up.
     
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