How far will filthy lying Republican racist candidates go to win an election???

I think politics, regardless of party, has an abnormally large percentage of the nations perverts. I think family values need a champion, and the Democrats certainly aren't going to do it, so yes, it remains a Republican issue/value, along with all the bullshit and responsibility that come with it.

Where do I start. Hookers ok, cheating not ok, hitting on younger men or women of the same or different sex ok, hitting on younger men or women who work for you not ok, regardless of difference in sex. Being homosexual ok, pushing homosexuality as normal in primary schools not ok, watching graphic sex and violence on TV ok, having my 4 year old watch violence and sex on tv not ok, teaching kids violence is normal not ok, even though MMA is one of the fastest growing sports.

Thats where my moral compass plays out as a registered Republican, though I'm from California so I'm probably pretty liberal. I'm sure being a member of the party that champions kinky sex and higher taxes is a lot less of a burden for it's pols, but someone has to stand up for what is right, even if they don't always measure up.

Were you out of the country for this story? Funny as hell IMO.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/14/seinfeld-on-snl-massa_n_498284.html

Be sure to watch the video!

 

O_Nation: hm...people w/ a lot of power might abuse that power w/ abusiveness (sexual and otherwise) but then again people w/out power do it also. As to family values...what has occurred is that the moral component of the fundamentalist Christian right tries to tie it with the GOP...or the GOP tries to tie it with the Fundamentalist Christian right. Bingo...right there it becomes a movement that pushes out an enormous amount of very moral Americans who don't fit into that little niche. In fact it pushes out the majority of Americans. That is when it gets wierd.

My own experience is that the most spiritual, moral, supportive, extraordinary developer of family values person I've met was a woman (wife, mother) who was also a liberal activist and outspoken in that regard. That wasn't just my opinion, I saw lots of people inspired and uplifted by her ways

As to what is okay and not okay for you...so be it. Its not my issue. I frankly didn't like the way those two guys in South Carolina made the accusations about infidelity.

Wham. That hits at that woman's marriage. It hits at her kids. I strongly suspect it was nothing but pure political bull sh!t for these reasons:

1. Nobody in their right minds ever publicly claims "I had an affair with that person" unless its for money.
2. The two guys slunk into the night, never offering proof. Somebody should be checking their wallets. I assume the woman could sue them for slander (believing as I do it was a lie). Its the kind of cr@p that strikes at a family's marriage and strikes at her kids.

As to the Massa thing. Good riddance. Another perverted member of Congress. The SNL skit was funny.

 

RE: moralists who hire hookers

Now don't go gettin' personal... like I told those other fellas... that was my niece.

 

There is a big difference when the person you are bangin works for you. When the thing goes sour, like it always does, it costs them their job. If it doesn't go sour, they get special treatment in exchange for sexual favors(prostitution?). If you are hitting on them and the advances are unwanted, it becomes harassment with implications to their employment. There are obviously a variety of reasons we avoid the practice, even though most people treat their workplace like a dating pool. I never had an issue with Bill Clinton's overdriven need to bang anything and everything with a XX chromosome, even though he seemed to have a taste for fat and bitchy women. Cheating on his wife was a trust issue, as it should have been, but I always considered their relationship to be more of a business partnership and extramarital affairs were part of the bargain. The only substance to the issue, as far as I was concerned was that a) She worked for him and b) He lied to the American people under oath about it. Other than that, I'm rather fond of Bubba.

You left out the Neo-Nazis. We also have the skin heads and Neo-Nazis. On the other hand, the anarchists, communists, Palestinian sympathizers, radical Islam, and Illegal Immigration people try and tie in with the Dems, and believe me, for the most part, their constituency is welcomed by the DNC. Osama Bin Laden was pulling hard in 2008 for Obama.

It is possible to be pro-choice without supporting late term abortions or the use of abortion as birth control. It is possible to be pro-family values and have fundamentalist Christians in your party without being the party of "rule by the religious". Summing up a party based on some of the more fringe elements of it's constituents is an Ad Hom in its purest form.

Can you think of a politician from either party you would actually look up to as an example for anything? I can't. When talking about the dirty gritty process of legislation and governance, I don't think we shouldn't be looking for role models. I look for people who will fight the legislative battles I want fought and come out on top.

How would you feel if the candidate were a man, and two women came out of the wood work to make such charges?

LoL

 

BTW: O_Nation thanks for responding so much. It keeps the title w/ filthy, lying, and racist = Republican up on the top for all to see.

 

Part of a long article about Haley, there was no mention whether she would take the test or not.

One or the other is lying so doesn't Haley have an obligation to prove her innocence afterall they are all Republicans.......and what about her and Sanford....?


Good job O...Nation keeping it on the front page and do give your 10,000 word summary for each sentence.
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If you want some real humorous reading, you should check this out.

I couldn't stop laughing. Here is an ex-marine who makes almost nothing, saves up the $10,000 filing fee and wins the Democratic nomination for the US Senate position in S. Carolina. The fact Clyburn is asking him to be investigated as to where he got the $10,000 is as insulting as it is funny. Why doesn't he just say, "We don't accept poor people in the senate". What an asshole. But the story gets better:

So let me get this straight. Hitting on a College Co-Ed, showing her a pornographic web site and asking her if she will take you back to her dorm room with her constitutes a felony in S. Carolina? Are you F'n kidding me? How far up their asses do these people have their heads?

Funnier still:

They just can't figure it out, but I would propose an obvious answer. The people who voted in S. Carolina didn't know who this guy was, but his title said Ex-Marine, not career politician. I know more than a few people who went down the line in the recent primary voting against anyone whose title reeked of career politician, attorney, or educator(for all the no-name positions where little was known about the candidates). This may be a very interesting year in politics.

 

It may just prove that Democrats will vote for the first name on the ballot, not even thinking about other issues.

Or, perhaps people just voted for Alvin Greene because he's black and Vic Rawls is white. Hell, Barack Obama wouldn't be President today if he was white.

Honestly, it's impossible to try to make sense of the actions of senseless people.

And look at this condescending message on that asshat Vic Rawl's web site today:

Judge Vic Rawl issued the following statement today:

It has been an eventful three days for our state.

The results of the Senate primary on Election Day surprised almost everyone in the state, apparently including Mr. Greene.

There are a number of serious allegations out there about the election. No one yet knows if they are true.

I do know that Jim Clyburn is an icon in state politics and what he had to say today should be taken very seriously.

If any of the allegations have merit, the people of South Carolina have a right to know that.

My campaign is looking closely at data from Election Day and otherwise for irregularities.

As for Mr. Greene, what happens next is entirely in his hands. I wish him well, and hope he makes his decisions in the best interests of his family and the people of South Carolina.​

I don't know Rawls from Adam, but based upon this message I just want to tell him to go to hell.

 

Fine. There are a variety of non-nefarious reasons why Greene might have won. The rush to judgment, the slanderous allegations, the thinly veiled threats, and the pressure to step down from the sore looser Rawls and the DNC establishment are not just an embarrassment, they are highly offensive. If they have evidence of election fraud, any evidence at all, they should bring it and make charges. I'm sorry folks but the outcome of an election is not, in and of itself, evidence of election fraud.

This guy just won the nomination of one of the two major parties for one of only 100 legislative positions in America with only $10440 out of pocket. Its like winning the lottery. He should be doing a victory lap and handing out high fives to everyone he sees on the streets(Many of whom helped make him the nominee). Step down after the people voted you in? I guess asking successful people to step aside and give the rewards of their success to unsuccessful people IS at the core of Democratic values.....

 

I think "offensive" is exactly the right word.

Vic Rawls and his friends are telling Toby to get back into the fields and pick some cotton. They are telling him that a boy like him shouldn't be so uppity with his betters.

And if he does what they want, Judge Rawls might just get those felony charges against him dropped...

 

OMG.. laughing so hard I'm cryin here. How dare you bring up Toby you racist!

 

Not to bump, but this is a must watch.[video=youtube;zUFN7ZkjgkA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA[/video]

 

Vic: Your name is Toby.
Vic: I want to hear you say it.
Vic: Your name is Toby.
Vic: You're going to learn to say your name.
Vic: Let me hear you say it.
Vic: What's your name?
Alvin: Alvin, Alvin Greene.
Vic: When the master gives you something, you take it.
Vic: He game you a name.
Vic: It's a nice name.
Vic: It's Toby.
Vic: And it's going to be your 'til the day you die.
Vic: Now I know you understand me, and I want to hear it.
Vic: I want to hear you say your name.
Vic: Your name is Toby.
Vic: I want to hear you say your name.
Vic: What's your name?
Alvin: Alvin.
Vic: What's your name?
Vic: Say it?
Vic: Toby!
Vic: Who are 'ya?
Vic: Say your name.
Vic: What's your name?
Alvin: Toby.
Vic: Aye.
Say it again, say it louder so they all can hear ya! What's your name?
Alvin: Toby, my name is Toby.
Aye. That's a good nigger. Cut him down.

 

Isn't it curious you don't hear the DNC and Democrats in general shouting racism at this Dixiecrat's attempts to put this uppity negro in his place? Do you see Al Sharpton marching in the streets to protect the rights of a brother? Where is Jesse Jackson? Rawl's probably has a copy of Roots on DVD and plays it over and over envisioning himself in the roll of Vic. I guess the words "Only to be played against conservatives" are printed on the back of the race card.

 

As I suggested earlier, the 2 PUGs who claimed they had a sexual relationship w/ Haley should be hunted out. Someone has to discover who planted the money. Who paid those guys to do something no self respecting human would do on his own.

Similarly one of the first things to be investigated with Mr Greene is to find out which Republican gave him the $10K to run, and which GOP operatives convinced register republicans to vote for him in the open primary.

It would appear if you decide to become an announced Republican politician or operative in South Carolina the police and FBI should start investigating you from the word go. Basically, being a Republican in South Carolina is akin to being a lying cheat.

Haley might be in some regards the exception to the rule. She made her name by campaigning against a state GOP created rule that allows the state legislators to vote in secret. Nobody knows who votes for what.

Then the GOP legislators voted themselves huge retirement benefits....all while the state economy is sucking wind.

Something wierd happens in South Carolina politics??? Go look for a Republican (crook) who is probably creating it.

 

Assumption of a crime, assumption of who is to blame, assumption of guilt. Amazing isn't it? I don't suspect you are a racist, but had this guy won the Republican ticket and the white Republican who lost made such groundless accusations, you would have been all over it with the race card. Now think about Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. COMPLETELY SILENT!!! It is amazing! Jim Clyburn, who recently called Rand Paul a racist has lost all credibility in my opinion. He's gone from legitimate civil rights activist(unlike Sharpton and Jackson) to just another asshole who should be voted out of office.

Look I'll grant you Greene doesn't come off as the sharpest tool in the shed, and general knowledge of how he handles himself in public and of the Felony arrest might have swayed the outcome of the election(Perhaps he'll wake up and vote Republican when this is all done). It would appear Mr. Rawls was so egotistical, so assuming that this guy had absolutely no shot, he didn't even campaign against him. The very first article says as much very clearly. Your beloved DNC had the opportunity to handle this properly. They could have quietly initiated an investigation and sent out their attack squad (the same group of people they sent to Wassilla Alaska). They could have dug up legitimate evidence of election fraud and if the trail lead to Republicans, let the chips fall where they may. Instead, they sent out their house negro Clyburn to sling mud and politicize the issue without even a shred of evidence! Weren't you the one, when you started this thread, blasting away at people who ruin other peoples lives with blind accusations? When the shoe was on the other foot, you just joined in the chorus!

Personally, with the evidence as it sits right now, I feel bad for Greene. Instead of enjoying a surprise victory, he is dealing with vicious attacks coming from his own party. I cant figure out why people like you don't find questions like, "where did a poor negro like you get $10,000?" as truly offensive as they are. Imagine if I rolled up on some poor looking black guy in S.C. driving a completely painted and customized Escalade and asked him how he could afford such a vehicle? What do you think the outcome would be? The line of questioning, as it sits right now, is as racist as it gets. Your name is TOBY!!!!

 

Looks like a bunch of partisan hackery to me. Stub your toe, blame a Republican. Lose to a black guy, blame a Republican. Don't get your way just because you're the party favorite, blame a Republican. It's really terrifying that people this emotionally immature are actually in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches of government right now.

It does go a long way toward supporting the theory that this civilization is on it's last legs. We'd better get all the Marines out of the U.S. before the North American continent tips over.

 

Allegations on the Republican side by Republicans merit substantiation - concluding before the final (runoff) vote.

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There is all kinds of smoke around Greene - the primary is over - however qualification as a felon for the general (any) election is not permitted so for this single subject alone there will be a follow up and will probably involve whatever else may be found.....so far nothing.

Considering DeMint is a safe Republican any shenanigans by the Republicans would indeed prove at best a foolhardy endeavor.
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Id like to see a televised debate between Hank Johnson and Alvin Greene. That video clip is funny and heartening all at once. The admiral sits there and takes a grilling of idiocy from that moron with respect because, at the end of the day, he reports to that moron(and all the rest of us morons).

 

It's pretty obvious that this is nothing but the usual Democratic shenanigans. Neither Vic Rawls nor Alvin Greene are any real competition to Jim DeMint.

In 2004, DeMint easily beat the Democrat's last candidate, Inez Tenenbaum, 53.7% to 44.1%. DeMint is a hugely well-known incumbent and voter sentiment is not positive towards the Democrats right now.

If anything, Alvin Greene has a far better chance to bear DeMint than Vic Rawls did. At least Greene is black. That's almost the only qualification Obama had, and it got him the Presidency. Vic Rawls didn't have a snowball's chance in hell against DeMint.