how fair is the google content game????

Discussion in 'Google' started by jadsn003, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. #1
    It might be a stupid question However i would invite comments on this..!

    Suppose , there is a website A posting original content.

    and other website B (say a blogspot blog) copies the content of website A .

    Here comes a condition: Website B is crawled regularly (at a speed that if new blog post is made it gets crawled instantly) whereas website A takes some time to get crawled.

    My question is:
    In a scenario where Website B gets crawled before website A. How will google determine who posted the original content. Who is the actual owner of the content in the eyes if google. To my knowledge google discovers content only when it crawls a web page. In this case , google with automatically make Website B as the actual owner of content.

    We are hearing about recent google content updates. In this case, Website A is likely to suffer where as Website B (Who is actually a copy/paste material) will enjoy algorithm loop holes.

    For Copy/Paste guys, Google simply says to report DMCA about copied content. To my experience, DMCA is also not good enough to take any steps. It is useles paying $99 for one time content removal (and that too, you are lucky if they are able to remove the content).

    My quest is????

    If this is the scenario, then how fair is the google content game???? Any Comments?


    Note: This post should not be considered as a criticism against google or DMCA. It is for information and knowledge purpose and does not mean to hurt any body's sentiments
     
    jadsn003, Mar 14, 2011 IP
  2. dvduval

    dvduval Notable Member

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    I can tell you the recent update put a lot of people out of a job. Rather than slowly adjust the algorithm over time, they just took a big sweeping action that changed many Before the update, those people had a job based on Google's algorithm as it was before. There are lots of cases of Google failing to identify the original source. Part of the reason is it is not always easy to find out.
     
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  3. msk19994

    msk19994 Well-Known Member

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    this is actually a really good question as for my information if google somehow knows the time that the website A had posted the content and the time the website B has posted the content then i think

    and btw i have seen alot of sites that copy other sites content ie literally every thing is the same only the domain and banner is different and every thing is the same and both have really good pr so as for my conclusion now days google says that it cares about copied content but it doesnt
     
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  4. jadsn003

    jadsn003 Peon

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    Yes i agree with you...This is the point i am actually talking about.. People at Google are advanced...They are well educated I guess (Big Engineers i Guess).. I am sorry, but some how they are missing this simple logic (Capturing the actual time the content was posted on the website). Once you are able to do this.. You will naturally come to know the originality and actual owner ship of content. For this they should somehow be able to know the webserver time on which a concerned website is hosted..

    To me it seems a logic, They crawl the website..It is fine..Very good..Excellent. But they if they are able to track webserver time as well ..then the whole content originality issue is solved.......

    The oldest the content is, the original it is....(On web ofcourse) . ... If you are first one to post the content you become the owner... Google crawls but it can not evaluate the actual ownership and originality of content until and unless they start recording post logs as well...Here by logs i specially refer the time & date when a post was made..!
     
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  5. suichiro

    suichiro Peon

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    I think enough since it would result to much more accurate results rather than results cause of spamming.
     
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    webcosmo Notable Member

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    Its a good move, shouldnt we agree? Provided Google is able to do the judging right.

    However i am sure there would be lot of mistakes at the beginning until google algorithm gets better.

    My guess would be Google wont decide just based on a single page, probably based on a history.
     
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  7. massjo

    massjo Active Member

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    it will be great one for unique content writers.
     
    massjo, Mar 14, 2011 IP
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    RouletteJoe Peon

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    With every algo update there is public outcry followed by less and less outcry as rankings slowly rebound. If you lose rank, use this time to develop original content and get it out there.
     
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  9. jadsn003

    jadsn003 Peon

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    Here no body has lost rankings. I guess all of us are talking about a fact "how should search engines recognize the uniqueness of content" . Writing unique content is necessary but not the main point in concern . The main point here is : How to stop a situation where somebody copies your unique content and gets crawled before your webpage is crawled. In this particular situation, search engines will definitely impart ownership to the one who is crawled first.

    Search engines need to stop this, if they need to stop mutiple copies of same content on internet. People who copy content harm internet. In a way "they are actually not contributing to internet, they are reducing the quality of information being displayed"
     
    jadsn003, Mar 21, 2011 IP
  10. stevepaul

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    This is really sticky question and important as well. In this case original hard worker doesn't get the benefit but in contrast penalize for content duplication. I have no idea about how to become fare. I can suggest that protect your content by copy protected. There is no other way. Google has not any way to find the original owner. It finds first time then consider that as a owner. Hopefully Google finds solution within sort time period, because they have just started to put more weight on content.
     
    stevepaul, Mar 21, 2011 IP
  11. jadsn003

    jadsn003 Peon

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    Recently , I observed a new thing.. Google crawling of your new website has become fast...May be they have made an update to their algorithm...

    Recently i uploaded a new website and i was pleased to see that Google crawled it within minutes........This has only been observed for a new website....
    Google also crawls the posts or pages instantly in case of trusted websites....

    What about websites who are in the middle (Not new and not in the category of trusted websites)
     
    jadsn003, Jun 7, 2011 IP
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    dgcerk369 Peon

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    Now the game is very competitive, a lot of games are used in publicity seo black hat, the game is a lucrative industry ah
     
    dgcerk369, Jun 8, 2011 IP