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Discussion in 'Google' started by DrewAMP, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hey,

    I am making a new site and I would like to get it pretty high in the SERPs for certain keywords, and there is a pretty common list that I would like to place on my site. Most sites about my niche have this list, but will Google count this as dupe content if I place it on my site?
    SEMrush
    I never really looked into dupe content and how that works since I always wrote my own unique articles.

    Thanks for your help,
    Drew
     
    DrewAMP, Dec 8, 2007 IP
    SEMrush
  2. swedal

    swedal Notable Member

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    #2
    Do the list in a new unique way
     
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  3. DrewAMP

    DrewAMP Peon

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    #3
    There's not much ways you can list sites that would be user-friendly. Alphabetical order is my idea, but that's already been done by many sites. So this would be counted as dupe content?
     
    DrewAMP, Dec 8, 2007 IP
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    tattoos Prominent Member

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    #4
    If they are just links, then if you add nofollow tag and maybe a title= tag to each link (title being your own unique description).

    If there are to many links to consider that, then you could possibly use noindex and nofollow meta. Then maybe Google would not treat it as anything!?

    I should point out that I am a Noob and what I just said maybe completely wrong...

    Cheers
    James
     
    tattoos, Dec 8, 2007 IP
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    Zanswer Peon

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    #5
    Consider adding a little (unique) description to each item.
     
    Zanswer, Dec 9, 2007 IP
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #6
    What do you mean by "a pretty common list"? If you are talking about a list in a meta keywords tag, don't bother - Google doesn't use it.
     
    minstrel, Dec 9, 2007 IP
  7. DrewAMP

    DrewAMP Peon

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    No, it's a list of data entry jobs.
    It's a list of the legit companies that are hiring. It's on a lot of sites, I just want to avoid being penalized for dupe content.
     
    DrewAMP, Dec 9, 2007 IP
  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #8
    There is no "duplicate content penalty". All you're really risking is having a list of tasks that a lot of other people also have and therefore being in a big pool of competition.

    Seems to me what you want is a way to make that list stand out on your site compared to everyone else (i.e., compelling copywriting plus good anchor text on incoming links, including navigation links).
     
    minstrel, Dec 9, 2007 IP
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    suzipatrik Peon

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    #9
    If the content is same then better way to use no follow tag or else it will be counted in supplement result.
     
    suzipatrik, Dec 9, 2007 IP
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    misch.chief Active Member

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    #10
    Duplicate content with lists, I think just go for the most user-friendly way, alphabetical or something
     
    misch.chief, Dec 10, 2007 IP
  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #11
    This is yet another Google myth.

    1. Supplemental listings have nothing to do with duplicate content.

    2. No-follow wouldn't help even if it did.

    Google Hell?
    By Matt Cutts
    Tue, May 1 2007

     
    minstrel, Dec 10, 2007 IP
  12. rena

    rena Peon

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    #12
    duplicate content from other site is problem, google will perminently kick.. if using links do it with nofollow
     
    rena, Dec 10, 2007 IP
  13. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #13
    No!

    1. pick a phrase like a newspaper headline and Google it with quotation marks around the headline (or other vivid phrase) - how many incidences of the content do you see indexed in Google? Answer: Plenty.

    2. No-following your own links is self-defeating and pointless and has nothing to do with duplicate content.
     
    minstrel, Dec 10, 2007 IP
  14. JoebeeKenobi

    JoebeeKenobi Peon

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    #14
    i agree with minstrel on this... one of my sites presents content which is the same on quite a few other competing sites and yet it will appear in the SERP's along with other sites which list virtually identical copy. Theres little we can do because the owner of the copy restricts how much we can change the copy they provide. Its a simple branding concept that they want the same message to be seen over and over in different places which is not unreasonable. Although we try to create as much unique content aswell we nonetheless rank highly on many high traffic search terms relevant to our niche despite the duplicate content that we have little control over.

    This being said, there does seem to be a lot of hype with dupe content penalty etc so I do wonder if anyone knows what exactly gets penalised and what doesn't? Because as per my example there are legitimate reasons for duplicate content where spamming is definetly not the intention..
     
    JoebeeKenobi, Dec 10, 2007 IP
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    This may help:

    The Duplicate Content Penalty Myth
    Mar. 15, 2007
    by Jill Whalen

     
    minstrel, Dec 10, 2007 IP
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    allout Prominent Member

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    #16
    I think the whole problem with duplicate content came when you had blogs that was using content fed in from somewhere else without any content that was original. Google does not ban for an article or list you copied from somewhere else. The sites they ban are those that are made for adsense and have no value due to the fact that they have no original content.

    If using any duplicate content resulted in a ban, you would not have the many article sites that allow you to use the articles on your website.

    Minstrel is perfectly right on this one! :)
     
    allout, Dec 10, 2007 IP
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    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #17
    There are over 1,000 sites that publish the same news articles daily.

    How many are penalized by Google?

    Zip

    Zero

    Zilch

    0

    None

    Nada

    Not any

    Not A One

    :D

    There a few people online who know what they are talking about in regards to Google

    The other 99.9% are clueless.......

    As noted by Allout and Minstrel.... MFAs and other sites that are trying to do something Google doesn't care... for will be tossed out the window....
     
    Sem-Advance, Dec 10, 2007 IP
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    #18
    If you had a page with just the list then that would be silly.

    If you had a page with the list and some paragraphs then you have a unique page.
     
    Small Fry, Dec 10, 2007 IP
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    helpful insight guys... cheers :)
     
    JoebeeKenobi, Dec 11, 2007 IP
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    Thanks for your help everyone, especially minstrel :) .
     
    DrewAMP, Dec 12, 2007 IP