How Does God Decide Whether You Are Eligible For Heaven or Not ?

Both, but have you actually read what you are linking to? Or did your 5% usage not allow you to?

 

Are you basing the concept of hell off of people who have heard voices from the sky anywhere from 2k to 7k years ago?

 

It's gonna have to be from 2k to 6k, since the earth is only about 6k years old.

 

Well, it would have to be 6,000 years + 7 days because according to the voices from the sky, that first 7 days was a bit rocky.

Yeah, yeah, bring on the flames. While I respect religion, I don't respect the amount of deaths that it has caused in the past 6k years.

 

A day in God's time is not necessarily the same as our time.. That "6" days and 1 day to rest (7) could have taken thousands of years for all we know.

 

I didn't realize the bible said 6,000 years anywhere. Got a passage for me?

 

I imagine he was referring to the Jewish religion in terms of the calendar.

 

The "Bible" does not specifically state a date, however if you start at Genesis and work your way forward, adding up the dates, one can arrive at roughly 6419 or so I think it was, last I heard...

Anyway, this site gives an interesting look the timeline and how people have come up with the idea the earth is 6,000 or so years old: http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/earthage.html

 

I'm Catholic... (thinking of becoming a Budist though) I've got the Budah and my wife is making me a Japanese garden. Anyway...

 

Someone said that god like a farmer. Where a farmer raise an apple tree, and at harvest time he will choose only the good apples, and throw away the bad apples.

 

Those who embrace the Christian faith (I do) would reply that God looks at whether we have accepted Jesus Christ as the Solution to and the Forgiver of our sins.

If anyone is interested in a Scriptural response to the thread-opening question, I invite you to view http://www.jimfeeney.org/onlyonewaytoGod.html.

 

It'd make a lot more sense to make the argument that, in the original language, the Bible uses the word "yom" and it has been translated into day. The actual word has a lot of uses, though and "day" isn't accurate; it can refer to a half day, a day, or an indefinite period of time too. So, if you have 6 yoms, it can mean anything, really.

And, if you accept (for the sake of argument) that the bible is right and the world was created in 6 "yoms" - then it doesn't necessarily mean 6,000 years.

Also, given that man didn't understand the concept of a long period of time (millions or billions of years), why would God get into it? Really - "yeah yeah, 6 yoms, if that helps"? It'd be an exhaustingly futile conversation

I think its a much more fruitful conversation to point out that the bible is the first written word where there is an orderly creation to the universe, much in line with a big bang theory. This, then that, then that. Science came to that same conclusion hundreds of years later.

 

It's open to interpretation... No one is right or wrong... It's just about what you believe and what you were taught. I don't believe everything I was taught, and tend to change my mind regularly over the years regarding different subjects, points of view and my own interpretation.

Like I said, 7 days could be thousands of years... So 6 yoms or 6k years could be 4.5 billion years for all we know.

In the end, it is likely all the same... All relative. Not really worth arguing about I suppose. I'm more concerned with the age of Jer than the earth.... I hate getting old!!!

 

The problem is there is a right and wrong. Something happened 2k years ago, something happened 7k years ago, something is right and something isn't.

I would ask which makes more sense, that a couple of people a few thousand years ago heard the voice of God and wrote about it or that they heard something else? More so, I would ask if that happened today, what would you say if someone claimed to be writing a book based on the word of God?

Actually it is and people will until the argument is solved.

It would be nice if everyone could follow what probably isnt' true so blindly. No offense but I am the type who needs to feel that my beliefs are based on more than a false hope.

 

No offense taken. Hope is a powerful and positive emotion. I would just encourage people to stay open to the Reality of that hope.

 

Personally I believe that Free Will is not logical, even if you take God out of the picture, so, assuming you are talking about the Christian God, The decision was made before you were born, and it was made after you die. I say that because God is outside of time and space and our concept of him deciding at the gates of heaven is tied to our concept of time.

How He actually makes the decision is something only He can fully understand, but as a Christian, I can at least say that it has nothing to do with how sinful you are, or were because even the smallest sin is the same as hundreds of huge sins in the eyes of God. And Christians still sin every day even though they don't want to in their hearts.

It really is hard not to come to the conclusion that it's a little like a coin flip (as far as we're concerned), but I think one knows somewhere inside of them whether they are going to heaven or not, even (in my case) when they are in the midst of trying to hate God and denying his existance. And given enough time, those people will come around. It's just a matter of God's plan being worked out.

If a person is trying to figure out for themselves whether they are going to heaven or not, I think the answer lies in the question itself, and if you keep asking yourself the question honestly, you will eventually find the answer. In fact, just asking the question is already indicative of you believing there is a heaven, which is a good start.

 

Allah wont ask you anything.

as you will go there with your sins and good works.

which way you will go will ve already clear.

 

Heaven has already closed down....it was not cost effective to maintain something so glorious for a handful of people.