How does Directory Rate work?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by JamieG, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. scoobby

    scoobby Active Member

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    #61
    I am not in a mood to argue with you again jamie but like normal directories bidding directories help customers sites to climb up the serps.
    it is so simple :)
     
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    #62
    a big factor when it comes to the rating seems to be the Page Rank! so not sure if the rating is that great.
     
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    #63
    Aye Aye, wonder where you got BR from :cool:

    Jamie, I wouldn't single out any individual bidding directory as offering significant value, the market IMO is still too young and the niche is still evolving. However as a marketing tool they are just as effective as any general directory.
     
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  4. JamieG

    JamieG Banned

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    #64
    I can't agree with you on a bidding directory being anywhere near as effective as a normal directory. What I don't boast about is that the group of companies I work for has a pretty large seo firm in operation and we wouldn't touch a bidding directory under any circumstance. In their present model bidding directories are ridiculous, they are not of any value simply because they aren't organised and contain a pot pouri of results which half of our customers would not want to be associated with.

    There may be a viable model one day but there isn't just yet, but that's purely my opinion. There may be some that do fit the model I believe in but I've yet to see them. :)
     
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    #65
    Did they come to this conclusion after doing some tests, or was it simply a decision based on a gut instinct?
     
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  6. JamieG

    JamieG Banned

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    #66
    Based on customer feedback Obelia. We asked our base of existing customers whether they thought there'd be any value in getting listed in this type of directory. Won't tell you what many of them said. Truth be known if you ask most SEO companies they would be of the same mind.

    @scooby; Sorry, missed your post. What evidence do you have that bidding directories offer an increase in serps? Take a look at 'most' not all, bidding directories, primarily the first page, look at how rediculous the order of the content is. Most 'Real' business won't touch this type of directory with a bargepole. Rather than give names of directories just do a google using bidding directories as keywords. You'll see what I mean.
     
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  8. SilkySmooth

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    You didn't know? Funny, could have sworn you came and submitted your 10 bidding directories to me a couple of weeks ago and then 2 days ago came out with this new site. Wierd that, huh? :rolleyes:

    But hey, use what you like it's not like I have it trademarked either.

    Now... back to the thread....

    What evidence do you have that they don't :D

    Sorry couldn't resist :p But on a serious note I do think that it raises the potential for an experiment to see. Perhaps when I get a bit more free time I'll knock together a scraper site and submit it to a few whilst monitoring the SERPS.
     
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    What evidence do you have that bidding directories offer an increase in serps?

    i have see it on my own sites that are being listed on some of them (not all but some are great for geting u site up in serps) pm me if you want proofs.

    primarily the first page, look at how rediculous the order of the content is

    Yes but in a normal directory u cant have a permanent listing in homepage,right?
    Also take a look in yahoo! homepage (like most portals or digg style sites) u will see a mix of content and keyphrase and subjects that are not related SE are not humans so they are not thinking(in fact they cant think,they just crawl) like you do.

    Most 'Real' business won't touch this type of directory with a bargepole.

    A good percentage of sites are being listed in at least my bid directory are also listed in DMOZ and if you take a deep look you can see some very reputable companies or websites and be sure that i havent added my self there.


    Rather than give names of directories just do a google using bidding directories as keywords

    There is a lot of crap directories and is both normal and bidding.
     
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  10. JamieG

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    #70
    Your word is good enough for me. :)

    You WON'T see gambling sites mixed in with children's play sites like you do on the bidding directories, I'm pretty certain of that. The pot pouri of irrelevant results and the fact you have to actually 'bid' to be in the irrelevant results is what matters. You have to do a nofollow as well so it doesn't matter what page your on does it?

    I can guarantee that most normal run of the mill business's would not touch a bidding directory under any circumstance. Our clients have a fixed budget which is effectively destroyed if you start using bidding directories. I don't want to get into a raging debate over the pros and cons if there any, as this isn't the correct thread. :)


    Too right there is, that's one consolation with bidding directories, there's less of them so less crap. I hope it stays that way but I am against the concept as it stands. It is just an opinion though, I respect others who differ.
     
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  11. scoobby

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    I can guarantee that most normal run of the mill business's would not touch a bidding directory under any circumstance. Our clients have a fixed budget which is effectively destroyed if you start using bidding directories. I don't want to get into a raging debate over the pros and cons if there any, as this isn't the correct thread.

    Thats why i told you to digg deaper on some bidding directories.
    As i have notice big companies or seo project submisions take the minimum bid to the revelant category.
    I have done it for some customers(not clients because i dont have a company but some greek people aproach me so i can take their budget and spread it well).

    You WON'T see gambling sites mixed in with children's play sites like you do on the bidding directories

    As for that as i said to you look at from the SE bot view.
    This bot go to your directory and see :
    Home | Submit Site | About Us What is Family Safe Searching

    For almost ten years the Cantufind Directory has advocated the need for family safe searching. Combining this ethos with the strictest of editorial standards we've worked to develop what we believe is the safest general directory environment available. Unlike many other organisations that claim to have the famiily safety on the internet at heart, most don't actually do anything tangible about it.

    Rather than discuss this here we decided to create an area to discuss this, for this please visit our Blog. We plan to use the blog to analyze and sometimes critisice the flawed concepts of these self proclaimed 'family safe concerns'. We'll demonstrate that even with the best will in the world, most simply don't know how to, we'll also demonstrate how simple it is to start creating a safe enviorenment and how we can all work together to maintain this. Here's how...

    What is a family safe searching?


    It's exactly what it says, its a search environment that is safe for the family. When you search for something using our directory you are doing so in the knowledge that you aren't going to find spurious and often offensive results mixed in with relevant results to your particular search criteria.


    The problem with search engines is that they now have the capabilities of being able to index literally billions of websites, and, using ever developing techniques the search engines are smart, they use a variety of techniques to find results and they can fairly accurately in providing you with what you're looking for and fast, and as they evolve they get more capable in doing so, but unfortunately they are fundamentally flawed. It is because we recognise this flaw and the fact it will never truly be overcome that the Cantufind Directory was born.... Read More

    Cantufind.com the Family Safe Search DirectoryArts and Crafts
    Animation, Architecture, Art History
    Business and Economy
    Accounting, Aerospace, Agriculture
    Computers
    Algorithms, Artificial Life, Bulletin Boards


    Games
    Board Games, Card Games, Coin-Op
    Health and Wellness
    Addictions, Aging, Alternative Health
    Home and Garden
    Apartment Living, Consumer Info, Cooking


    Kids and Teens
    Arts, Computers, Directories
    News and Media
    Alternative, Analysis, Breaking News
    Recreation
    Antiques, Audio, Autos


    Reference
    Almanacs, Archives, Ask an Expert
    Regional
    Africa, Asia, Caribbean
    Science
    Agriculture, Alternative, Astronomy


    Shopping
    Auctions, Auto Shopping, Classifieds
    Society
    Activism, Advice, Crime
    Sports
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    now they go to bid directory and see:

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    So if i am a stupid robot i will find both like a chaos and uncategorized page or a page that include many themes that the pages that i am being transfer to is revelant.

    The only differece is that the gambling links maybe is more in bidding directories and that is another discusion that we have debate in the past with many people.
    And my opinion is that my directory is for adult people and i dont list sites that u can directly gamble.Thats my brief opinion.

    In the other things u said i agree.
     
    scoobby, May 6, 2008 IP
  12. JamieG

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    #72
    Learn to use the quote system here will you, its really hard to read when you post like you do.

    I'm not going to respond any further on it in this thread as it has nothing to do with the OP. If you want to start a swordfight on the efficacy of a bidding directory and a normal directory I'd be happy to respond to that but in a NEW thread. :)

    I will ask one thing though. Who are you selling to? The robot or the human?
     
    JamieG, May 6, 2008 IP