See why is it that if one person suggests one thing, its suggested that someone must be in the opposite direction? for me its like this: With pr im in between, neither for, nor against, its as simple as that, im not to the left or right, i just carry on. But if your here to whine on about the past and if people have got the message then thats not cool, and if in the other direction someone wants to tell the world not to have anything to do with pr, then thats not cool either. To an extent your telling me to mind my own business, understandable, because in a nutshell im telling you to do the same. A guy wants to focus on pr? leave him to it, a guy wants to use a particular script, again leave that person to make the choice. Your on DP now jamie, a public forum, we dance to different tunes. Not childish, just opinionated, you want to promote your ideas and if i disagree then thats the way it is. Back on topic How do you setup your prices: Lets leave the thread to anyone wanting to reply to the original question of prices.