How do YOU judge a writer?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by pro.seods, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. #1
    hey.

    I had always had this question in my mind. How do you judge a article writer and his professionalism?

    When you want people to write article for you, they pm you. What do you look in their pm and judge whether the guy will be able to deliver or not.

    I would like to hear some good answer. And this is a awesome chance for newbies to get some tips.
     
    pro.seods, Nov 21, 2009 IP
  2. lightless

    lightless Notable Member

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    Here are a few points that I, as a buyer would look at. Any or all of these may be looked at depending on the circumstances.

    1] Look at whether they have put effort into writing their reply. First impressions count.
    2] Their reply should have good language and grammar.
    3] Look at their iTrader.
    4] Look at their previous posts and threads in this forum to know how they write, communicate, behave and anything else that I want to know.
    5] Look at the writer's personal website/blog and/or any samples they have provided.
    6] Look whether they have a recent history of serious fraud
     
    lightless, Nov 21, 2009 IP
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  3. pro.seods

    pro.seods Peon

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    That was helpful.
     
    pro.seods, Nov 22, 2009 IP
  4. kanwarjot

    kanwarjot Notable Member

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    My way is - add them on messenger and do a quick chat:d always worked for me:)
     
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  5. pro.seods

    pro.seods Peon

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    But that could take a lot of time.But, what type of questions would you ask a writer?
     
    pro.seods, Nov 22, 2009 IP
  6. sameer_reddy

    sameer_reddy Peon

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    I'd always judge them by the above conditions plus the price they ask. Usually lesser the price they want, lower the quality will be. However there are cases which violates this rule when i see people who have no idea of writing a proper sentence ask around 10$ per article. Some people are excellent writers and provide quality work. they ask about 5$ and most of the time I end up sending them bonus
     
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    bumba1988 Active Member

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    I am a writer so I may not be the ideal one to answer. Still, I can give you some tips. Whenever you go for a writer, ask him or her to do a sample for you on a topic of your choice. Make it clear that you will pay only if you like the quality. You can see that sample and judge the quality. Generally, I have heard that a lot of writers produce false samples just to get a project. They produce a badly written content then and that client is deprived. I do not fall under that category though. Believe me.
     
    bumba1988, Nov 23, 2009 IP
  8. averyz

    averyz Well-Known Member

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    I usually look at previous posts, a lot of times they are similar to this-

    I wnt mk moey adsese tel me how? Hw to mak fast $10?

    I have also inquired about services and got got emails like this – snd payment and I strt wrk..

    lol.. DP is a circus.
     
    averyz, Nov 24, 2009 IP
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    lightless Notable Member

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    Not an apt comparison. It takes skill and experience to get into the circus (As a performer), while almost anyone can register, post and PM on DP.
     
    lightless, Nov 24, 2009 IP
  10. Gwen78

    Gwen78 Peon

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    lol I get the same thing. It's important for anyone looking to be hired for writing positions to make a good first impression. It's not brain surgery. ;)
     
    Gwen78, Nov 24, 2009 IP
  11. gvannorman

    gvannorman Well-Known Member

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    There are quite a few writers out there that are very good and can produce quality articles. If your looking for quality work it is not hard to just ask the writer to give you a small 200 word sample for you to review. This will give you an idea on the quality and writing style of the writer. At the same time 200 words does not take long to complete.

    I personally don't judge writers because I am not in the business of hiring a writer. I do it all myself.

    Good Luck!
     
    gvannorman, Nov 24, 2009 IP
  12. FifthDimension

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    Ask for sample of article - if they have submitted article to ezine articles they are usually given the "expert" url which lists all the articles submitted to ezine articles. That way by going through their previous articles you can judge the value of a writer.
     
    FifthDimension, Nov 24, 2009 IP
  13. gvannorman

    gvannorman Well-Known Member

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    This is true. You will know the style and quality that the writer might be able to deliver. But, what happens if the writer claims they can write quality on any niche. Which I see a lot of on DP, then asking for a small sample will show you the quality they can write in your niche.

    As with any of my posts, this is only an example of how to judge a writer. That after all is the topic of the post.
     
    gvannorman, Nov 24, 2009 IP
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    seolinkservices Peon

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    For me I will let him write a 100 words sample article on the spot in my given topic.
     
    seolinkservices, Nov 25, 2009 IP
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    iajrz Peon

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    In my opinion, particularly on the PMs or replies to your topic, it is important to check out the way you're being addressed, and what they talk about.

    A knowledgeable and responsible writer will usually ask for specific information on what you need, and when you need it, to be sure they can deliver what you need and what they need. It's their reputation on the line if they don't have enough time to deliver good quality.

    I don't have a lot of experience for articles here in DP, but I used to edit the paper in my high school and we paid a small incentive. I have since become a writer, and figured out that in "the real world", where you can actually haggle, the rates are based on that sort of thing, too. People who have higher rates and do better work usually don't do simple or non-specialized articles (or reviews, or any other texts) because the rates are not what they could get.

    Beware also for the "good writer for any niche". I can write on several topics, and out of personal experience I can tell you it's not easy. As it was said before, asking for a sample is a good way to know how they work on the niche you need.
     
    iajrz, Nov 25, 2009 IP
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    prashanth1 Well-Known Member

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    You can always judge it with its content.
     
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  17. GraceCo

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    I'm a copywriter and one thing you have to understand is that there are writers and then there are professional writers. There's a big difference. You'll find that most professional writers don't chase clients, it's the other way around. Professionals don't write sample articles for spec and they won't write for $5 an article. You'd be lucky to find a professional who would write an article for $75.

    Most write by the hour or by the project earning lowball $85 per hour to well over $150 an hour.

    If you're looking for cheap writing, you can get it for $5 an article, but you do get what you pay for-usually a novice writer. You end up with someone who can't tell the difference between 'your' and 'you're'. You get copy riddled with factual errors. Then, if you turn around and use that on your site, you're the one who looks unprofessional.

    Anyone can submit to ezine-it's a free directory. That doesn't make them an expert at writing.
     
    GraceCo, Nov 30, 2009 IP
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    JamesKPowers Peon

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    Testimonials and Samples are the best ways for me to be impressed when hiring a new writer. I pay well, but only if a writer actually can deliver. Most "CHEAP" $5 an article writers can't deliver the quality I need.
     
    JamesKPowers, Dec 1, 2009 IP
  19. gvannorman

    gvannorman Well-Known Member

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    You're correct when you say it is a free directory and anyone can submit. I remember when I first started out. I wrote the same article a few times before they actually accepted it. Now I am learning the business aspect of this.

    I believe that I can write, maybe not as good as some but better than most. I try to keep my rates affordable not because I am cheap, but because I like to work with the little guys at times. If someone who usually pays well wants my service, they get the same treatment that the guy who pays $6/article would get.
     
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  20. averyz

    averyz Well-Known Member

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    One thing I judge about a writer is how long they have been around.

    There is just so many fly by night writers out there.. they say "I have been writing web content for years" but they have 5 posts and no blog?
    That gives me the impression of they are either lying or they like to collect deposits and disappear and make another user identity.

    It looks impressive when writers have a good blog that has been around for months or years. Or used accounts that have been around for a while with some good posts.(This is not always a good indicator I have had people with great blogs and years of history try to scam me. Just another thing to look at)

    I am willing to work with writers that are a still learning I have most all outsourced stuff edited so it is usually not a big deal.

    But if I can't trust someone or I feel like they are lying or trying to pull scams then I have no interest in dealing with them.
     
    averyz, Dec 1, 2009 IP