How do you feel about a Nuclear Armed Iran?

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #21
    It was? Please show me the law that was broken.

    Last I checked, there was a resolution introduced, and backed by congress to go to war.

    Please cite your source to this law you think was broken? Just because something is wrong in your eyes (using hind sight of course) does not mean it is illegal.
     
    Mia, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  2. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #22
    If I was an iranian leader, it would be crazy for me not to seek nuclear weapons. Iran is no threat to the United States but the United States is a threat to Iran.
    The United States has stated publicly that its goal is regime change in Iran. The United States has invaded Iraq without any reason.
    The only way for Iran to avoid being invaded by the US is to have nuclear weapons. Iraq did not have any and it was invaded.
     
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  3. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #23
    The whole Iraq invasion was based on the WMD lie, Afghanistan was based on finding OBL and defeating the Taliban (neither of which have happened.)

    People like you are insane, you defend these completely insane neocons AT ALL COSTS man, are you getting paid by the government to do this mate??? :confused:
    Or do you do it for fun??? :confused:
     
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  4. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Opps mia, my typo i meant to say the student movement was against the current government not for it .

    Mia, Ags isnt saying that saddam was an angel. By no means, but he is correct about the iraqi invasion based on a lie. Saddam was dumb but he wasnt retarded. He knew he had to scrape his program a long time ago which he did. Now do u seriously believe government and cia reports that say the wmd's were sent to syria? loooooooooooool what a laugh.

    Let me give u a little political history lesson about syria. Syria is also a bathist
    regime as was iraq under saddam hussein but they were bitter enemies, maybe even more hated than the islamic extremists that saddam fought against. First point is : no way saddam sends those weapons to his bitter enemy syria. Second point is syria would have to be crazy to take them from iraq because they would then become the next target of U.S. and british forces. Its a no brainer to rightly assume that saddam had scraped his program a long time ago. The war in iraq WAS TO DESTROY IRAQS INFRASTRUCTURE to prevent it from becoming an economic and military global power as it would have done in 15 to 20 years.

    Mia next time u get to talk to some iranian students coming from iraq ask them about their hero mossadegh. All the students know about him as he was teh one that would have brought peace and economic freedom to iran, also ask them what happened to mossadegh and who helped to take him out and install a puppet regime. Talk to the people that had lived through this regime change to get the feel about how iran was before and after it.

    Empire building and empire destroying has been with humanity throughout civilization. Nothing has changed. Some people feel there needs to be a global military revolution but i feel there needs to be a global revolution of love. Love is the only thing strong enough to break the power of the elite over the common masses globally.

    What was that song? ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE? better believe it!!!

    AGS u talking about afganistan. Dont they have an advisor for unical over there ? Things that make ya go hmmmmm:)

    When any government is on the warpath, what is needed to sway congresses opinion? 2 factors: one is fear created by false information at the time. 2. is political pressure to go with the tide or get swept by it.
    Both factors were there at the time. Why not take a poll now of what congress feels and truely felt about this war. Im pretty sure u will get a much different vote but now its too late to bring the troops home and we all know it because of how much iraq as a country has degraded into mass chaos.

    This is the same exact reason why the elite took us to war in vietnam. They knew once the war started it would be very hard to bring the troops home quickly and it would degrade into a long term conflict.

    Kennedy wanted to bring the troops home by 1965 as was stated in the then top secret nsam 263(which was later freed from the governments hands by the freedom of information act). This is the buisiness of war people, no different now than back in roman times.

    Now for anyone to think or feel that irans leader is an angel, your 100% wrong. Iran is also playing this same game we played in iraq but its doing it in the middle east region of iraq and lebanon. It needs chaos to rein supreme in lebanon, this is why everyone in that country knows its supplying hezbolla with rockets. Iran denies this but everyone knows its lieing.
    What is past is prologue. Aint that the truth
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #25
    Ok, thank you for that... I was wondering if what I was hearing was wrong. Nice too hear it is still that way.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #26
    thats two people that have asked and yet no response...thats ok...AGS is in his own little world, and we all know he is there.:D
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #27
    Not ture.. It was like number 9 or so on the list, and was one of many things mentioned, and was not at the fore front of the resolution, nor was it the sole reason for going to war.

    Just because you make it up on the internet does not make it true.

    Once again, you come in with another drive by post devoid of reason or fact. You made a claim. That claim was that the war was "illegal". You've done this time and time again.

    Time and time again, several people here have asked you to show us what this law was that was broken. Instead you respond by either running away, or posting complete and utter drivel. In both cases you hide from the truth and flat out refuse to answer the question.

    Because you are so wrapped up in your own delusions you have come to the conclusion that anyone that has a differing opinion must be a neocon, and that facts just do not matter to you.

    What a lame response... I ask you again, what law was broken?
     
    Mia, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #28
    If they can get hold of it they will use it, simple like this. Some former mullahs and the current one and together with the PM of Iran are desperately looking for the ultimate.

    Unfortunately there's not enough opposition from within. The minority of probably 15 - 25 % who oppose the iranian leadership have no chance to combat that regime.

    So there must be an injection from the outside.

    Even Russia and China getting tougher now, which looks like a good sign to use more force to stop them.

    Rejecting multi billion $$$ of offers and incentives speaks louder than any confession.

    They have no excuses.
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #29
    No, your position is the lie. You are an untruthful person and have no qualms about lying to achieve your objective.

    Your WMD
     
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  10. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Arnie our first job is to admit our past doings to the world then we can get world opeinion and true backing against the current stance of iran on this nuclear issue. Truthfullness is the one thing that is the enemt of all who seek war whether it is elements in our government or the radical mullahs who now hold iran in their grip. This is how our nation can grow and become truely noble, but this will never happen as long as the elite rule it and the office of the presidency has been turned into just a figurehead.

    Does anyone truely think that anything can be changed whether we have a conservative or liberal president in charge? Times are what dictacte the actions of the elite. If clinton was president today we still would be in iraq and i dare anyone to prove any different to me.
     
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  11. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #31
    It's not unheard of.
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...oggers_fear_publicists_will_infiltrate_sites/

    What does George Bush have to say?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM
     
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  12. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #32
    Oh LORDY!

    Not that crappy single post of yours that you have quoted about a million times. :rolleyes:

    Jesus Christ mate it is now been widely admitted that there were no WMD, even your neocon heroes have admitted it, you must be one of the only people in the world that still believes that there were WMD.

    I'm absolutely amazed at your tenacity.
     
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  13. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #33
    Nail on the head baby!

    Straight from GTech's #1 hero saying that they didn't have WMD and STILL GTECH INSISTS THAT THEY DID. :confused:

    Jesus Christ I despair sometimes with GTech. :confused:

    He's beyond help I fear. :(
     
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    Briant Peon

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    #34
    The sad part is that I have posted that video about three times already. You should hear some of the rationalizations :rolleyes:
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #35
    I posted one with RAMBO Rumsfeld saying the same thing but all he does is ignores it and keeps insisting that there were WMDs. :confused:
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #36
    I created a youtube video saying I was the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby.. It MUST be true..

    If I post it just two more times, it will be pure fact!
     
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  17. astire

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    #37
    lolz...this is the most stupid argument i have read over a long period of time....:D no,,,here is more

    so what? Congress...lol....ok if i say making nuke is decision of elected govt. of Iran...then this will be justified...right;)
     
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    Briant Peon

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    #38
    I guess the red pill is tough to swallow ;)
     
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    #39
    you always make me laugh little kido....:D
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #40
    Exactly.. You're catching on!
     
    Mia, Apr 10, 2007 IP