How do you avoid the sandbox?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Canadianbacon, Jun 27, 2005.

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    Any suggestions? I'm thinking, i'm going to let a sites sit for a month or more before i really start going for backlinks.

    Any other suggestions?
     
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  2. bigdoug

    bigdoug Peon

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    #2
    Google's age filter cannot be userped. Time is the only way to creep slowly out of the box. So add links and content and wait on the filter to end.

    D
     
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  3. ServerUnion

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    #3
    Might as well start to get the backlinks, luck and time are the only way to avoid the box...
     
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  4. crazyhorse

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    I tried to add only links from authority websites in the beginning to see whether that would result in a bypass of the sandbox. Not.. I didnt add links for a while , still in there. So i decided to build links and wait for rougly 6 months and that seem to be for me the solution.
     
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  5. just-4-teens

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    #5
    same question i asked when i first got here, simple answer (as stated above), there is no way of avoiding it, my sites been sandboxxed since 18th jan 05 and still shows no signs of moving (no im not banned), best thing to do is worry about getting optimised for the other 2 big dogs (yahoo & msn) since they seem to bring me a bit of traffic, about 400 visiters out of 2000, also concentrate on getting visiters from other sources like other related websites. If you can manage to get for e.g. 2000 unique visits a month from not search engines, think when google un sandboxxes you you will have 2000 unique a month plus the tonnes of hits from google
     
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  6. Canadianbacon

    Canadianbacon Well-Known Member

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    so are "new" sites automatically taged with the filter?
     
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  7. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #7
    No-one but a hand ful of well paid Google engineers know for sure.
     
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    Has anyone else noticed sandbox behavior with MSN? I sure have...
     
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  9. Canadianbacon

    Canadianbacon Well-Known Member

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    well I think a deciding factor might be what type of site you have...blog...forum..html doc...
     
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    Why do you want to wait with backlink collection? It seems to have no sense to me.
    Is there a difference between getting backlinks when you are in the sandbox and when you are outside?
    Blo.
     
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  11. Dirkjan

    Dirkjan The Dutch SEO Guy

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    I sure didnt ;)

    Yahoo seems to though.

    The first comment I saw was the right one to me. For some keywords, you just hit the sandbox. Even with authorised links, slowly adding links, or waiting etc.

    Just forget about the sandbox, and start getting links right away. The Sandbox is only for a period! you will get out after time!
     
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  12. larysmith711

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    OK everybody take note.... ur... write this down:

    The only way to avoid the sandbox is to buy a site that already ranks well for it's KW's.
     
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    I'm curious if anyone has any ideas about what specifically the age filter is in regards to. From a development standpoint, it seems like it would benefit our workflow to recommend to all my new clients that they purchase and activate a domain immediately, and place a basic page of contact info online. If it takes me two months to complete their site, we are that much farther into the sandbox wait period.

    There is also the scenario that many of our clients have a domain they've parked for 5 years before finally deciding to place a site on it. Are these the lucky people who will be able to avoid the sandbox when they finally get their sites online?

    I guess it all comes down to what the "aging agent" actually is.
     
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  14. Dirkjan

    Dirkjan The Dutch SEO Guy

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    Basically this is true, yes :) In the second scenario I would suggest adding at least 1 backlink.
     
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    I haven't. They spidered my site a few days after I came online and nearly half of my site (over 5,000 pages) are already in their engines 3 and a half weeks later. For keywords, my pages come up pretty much at the very top.
     
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    This is true. They refuse to index more than 10 of my pages. Very odd.
     
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    You can't avoid the box!
     
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  18. crazyhorse

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    I try to avoid picking up the children from kindergarten. ;)
     
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  19. Dirkjan

    Dirkjan The Dutch SEO Guy

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    Used to Wehkamp?
     
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    I agree.
    The best way for new sites to solve this problem is to work on your pages like the sandbox does not exist.

    Yahoo and Msn will bring a good share of traffic even if google does not list your site high.
    New sites should not worry about google but must optimise content for users,yahoo and msn. These 2 engines don't care too much how long your site has been in the net
     
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