How do spam sites generate traffic/money so fast?

I've read about people pumping out 3 or more sites a day using tools like Traffic Equalizer, CashPageBuiler, etc., and within a week those sites are getting traffic and making money. Now correct me if I'm wrong here, they don't do any traditional SEO stuff or link building after the sites are up, they just keep cranking out more sites as fast as they can. Those sites can't be getting any top SERP in less than a week's time, so how the heck are they getting traffic so fast?

I'm in no way even contemplating using that method. I'm sticking with the tortoise(torcherous) route of writing real content, article submission, link building, etc., stuff that you DP'ers (the white hat ones)advocate.

Ken

 

I've often wondered the same thing. I thought I would take my sweet time, learn how to do the SEO thing in my spare time, ramp up a few good sites (or more) and then maybe in a year be raking in some decent money.

However, I've seen a number of ads (and people) claiming to be using tools like you've talked about and then swimming in traffic, while my sites (albeit not great sites, but at least with good original content) are seeing a meager trickle.

What gives?!?!?!

 

I'm glad someone asked. I'm with you, Ken. How do they do it?

 

Well, I'm not a spammer, but when I create a new site, I submit it to sites like del.icio.us or Digg (if at all tech related) and if they get the front page or get a lot of votes from other users, then it can really jump start your site in the SERPS (almost by the next day sometimes).

As for cranking out sites quickly. I think a lot of times, they will take a site they have made and change the title, text, and color schemes. Then slap it up on the web.

I've duplicated the layout of a site I already created (layout design, not content), just to see if the new idea would take off. If it did take off, then I would re-design the site from scratch to make it more customized to the theme of the content.

The key difference with this technique and that of a Spammer is that they mass produce crap sites that offer zero benefit to the Internet.

 

I don't think they generate any more revenue than other sites. If the pages dont get indexed well no one will find them and the site owner wont get any money. Having a 2000 page spam site without any optimization usually wont generate much revenue. Maybe a few cents a day to a dollar a day tops.

 

IAmNed... how in the world did you go from 3 red to 5 red in a couple days!

Your username should not be "IAmNed". It should be "IAmRed"!

 

5 reds...wow

 

I think it's just the pure mass taking effect in this case.
no matter how unpopular a (public) page is, it will be visited one day... now imagine hundreds of thousands of sites instead of one and you can see where this is going.

But in the end, you will make more with a good network of content sites - not only because of the superior longevity compared to a spam network.

 

As a person who was around to see the days of Traffic Equalizer I can tell you a couple things real quick:

1. It worked, and very well.

2. You still pointed links at the sites, but a few high PR links would get you ranked, indexed and traffic back then.

3. It no longers works nearly as well.

4. There are new equally as easy opportunities on the web all the time, including right now.

I will be writing a blog about this later

 

It's not too hard to do. There are several programs available to mass produce sites. The difference is that most black hats will go after keywords that a white hat wouldn't think of touching. What I mean is, WH will build a site about "Car Insurance", for example. Nice paying click value of several dollars. A BH will build a site around "Car Insurance Agents in <city,State> which will get on avg $.10 a click. They throw up a site with 100k pages, each optimized for a different city-state and it becomes very easy to rank top 3-5 for such obscure terms. At $.10 a click on 100k pages even with just one click per day per page, well, you do the math. Now multiply that by 10 new sites a day and over a month, you're making some serious bank.

 

Trouble with the black hat programes is you have to make changes so they dont leave any footprints,most real black hatters write there own programes.

These guys can churn out over 500 sites an hour and buy domains 500+ at a time for a very small price.

They tend to run and own dozens of there own servers to be able to do this.

Lots of people look down on them as being stupid but they are some of the best brains on the net as they go head to head with the guys at google to get #1.

The rewards ?

There goal is $2 a site per day.

Does it work ?

This info was given to me by a guy that is black hat and he has just changed his car again to the latest mercedes

I asked him how much he makes a month from google and his reply "about 30% of my sites income".

 

That's cool,
I wanna a new mercredes too!

 

If this is what all or most the top adsense earners are doing to make their money it kinda makes you lose faith in the entire adsense program.

 

Why would you say that? The advertisers are getting very highly targeted traffic from such a small niche. I would imagine it converts pretty well. Advertisers are happy, google is happy and the BH is happy.

 

Glad to know whoever sent me that PM likes their red.

 

Never head of such programmes that mass produce websites, must cost a lot of $$$$$$ I guess.

Greetz

 

Traffic Equalizer and most other programs don't leave big footprints if you modify the templates right. Not that I advocate using them

 

If you can build your own, the cost is whatever your time is worth to you. If your purchase a ready made program and tweak it to your needs, the cost is still pretty small compared to the potential return. If you have to hire a programer, you could be looking at a pretty hefty bill when it's all said and done.

 

here is a bit of the email i had from my BH friend.

"programes like TE are ok for starting out with but you need to get coders to write your stuff to make $xxx,xxx a month. TE was ok at first but google et al are well wise to it now,the armery of the top BH guys is huge,we think nothing of spending 5-10,000 bucks on a small script that is unique. last month a script was published by a 15 year old kid for free but within 2 weeks he was offered big bucks to take his site down and sell the rights to it,I think he hit the jackpot."

The email goes on to explain things in more detail but i dont want to encorage any members on here to get involved in that kind of stuff.

I prefere to grow my sites organically,but i am sure there are members on here that practice this kind of stuff who could answer questions anyone may have ?

 

Since the advertisers are mostly paying per click and they are getting a large amount of traffics from these sites from people who have ZERO interest in buying anything no, I think the chances of it converting very well is non-existant.

As I mentioned elsewhere, if you drive x amount of traffic to a content-laden site, and y percent click on ads, just because you remove all the content doesn't all of a sudden my y*5 percent of the people are now going to be interested in those ads.

There is no logic to support the assertion that such spam traffic would convert well. It can't convert well so it is bad for advertisers, it is bad for other publishers and it is bad for the end users. The only person it is good for is the one gaming the system. Everyone else loses.