How do I stop a permanent 301 Redirect? New content on redirected domain - bad idea?

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    pieman_fellis, Mar 18, 2007 IP
  2. BrentH

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    301 redirects are "permanent". That's the significance of a 301 redirect as opposed to a 302 redirect.

    Your domain *may* be punished with some sort of long-term black mark penalty.
    Or it may just be temporarily de-indexed.
    Or something else entirely may have happened to it.

    The only thing I'd suggest is to see if you can get Google's spider to come back to your old site by throwing some links up to the new content + perhaps some other pages.
    If Google sees that the 301 redirect isn't active on the site anymore, then Google will probably see the mistake and make sure you're re-indexed.

    I'm not sure about the long term affects (whether there's any penalties, whether your start from scratch, etc).

    I haven't been able to answer your question - but I hope I've helped anyway.
     
    BrentH, Mar 18, 2007 IP
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    Just remove the 301 redirect and point links to the page you want re-indexed give google a week or two and everything will back to normal.
     
    banless, Mar 18, 2007 IP
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    Oh yeah, good point.. make sure you remove the 301 redirect first :D
     
    BrentH, Mar 18, 2007 IP
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    Hello Guys.

    Thanks for the advice. It just I thougth "301 redirects were permanent" - I suppose they are only perminant as long as the redirect is in place right?

    The 301 was only active for 7 days, then it was stopped (although I know Google crawled during this time). And I also know that the new domain listed in place of the old domain on Google.

    Now the 301 has gone will Google really just revert the site back to normal?
    Will there be any suppression or penaltys from this mistake? There are links going to the old site right now.

    Anyone exprienced this before?
     
    pieman_fellis, Mar 19, 2007 IP
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    As soon as you remove the 301 everything should go back to normal. Make sure you redirect the new domain back to the old one.
     
    mad4, Mar 19, 2007 IP
  7. pieman_fellis

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    Short, simple version of long story...

    301 www.domain1.com to www.domain2.com for 1 week only. Google cashed www.domain2.com and rankings fell for www.domain1.com – PR was also passed to index of domain2.com (does this mean Google saw the 301 redirect?).

    Then sold www.domain2.com and uploaded brand new website onto www.domain1.com so I can redirect back from domain2.com.

    Right now a few pages of my old domain1.com have been cached including the index page however a trademarked term shows domain2.com above me.

    Will www.domain1.com re-rank well and fast?

    Please advise.
     
    pieman_fellis, Mar 20, 2007 IP
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    So you sold domain2 and can't redirect it back to domain1? When you sold domain2 did you tell the buyer that you had redirected domain1 to it and that you would stop the redirect as soon as they bought it?
     
    mad4, Mar 20, 2007 IP
  9. BrentH

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    I don't think anyone here is going to accurately be able to answer your question - apart from saying "This is what we *think* will happen - wait and see". I see it as a pretty unique situation.


    Google uses weighting measurements for "reputation" or "trust".
    What you've done is told Google that Domain1 is taking over from Domain2 - and Google should treat it in the same way as it would have treated Domain1. All links to Domain1 should count as links to Domain2 etc.
    Then Domain1 came back online, and started running again.

    If I were to over-simplify the example, it would be like a King abdicating his throne to a Prince (and giving the Prince all of the throne's entitlements) - then going off to set up his kingdom again elsewhere, and taking back some of those entitlements.
    If this happened, it would take time for the King to regain the trust and reputation he once had.

    Depending on how good Google's algorithm is, my best guess is that Google will see what you've done as being spammy and you'll lose some of your reputation/trust weighting.
    But I think you'll be able to regain this over time.

    Again - this is just my best guess.
     
    BrentH, Mar 20, 2007 IP
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    Thanks for the advice Bret.

    Looks like my best course of action would be to buy back domain2 and move my domain1 to domain2 URL or do a 301 back to domain1 from domain2

    - which is best, if either?

    Regards.
     
    pieman_fellis, Mar 21, 2007 IP