My site is: http://www.lolroulette.com/ I added a new and active blog last week, ezine articles, blog comment links, more pages and noticed that Google has been picking up the pages and is now indexing my site much quicker but I am not ranking. I noticed that EVERY single page on my site shows up on the 50th result in Google. This is something that has been around for about 2 years now. I noticed that I was ranking on the 50th result for my uncompetitive domain name term "lol roulette". Now I'm realizing all the pages seem to be like this. No matter what I do, nothing on this website as ever ranked higher than the 50th result. What are the common causes of the Google 50 Penalty? If I know this, I might be able to fix the site. Thanks
that could be because the people that are in the same niche as you, are just investing more time and or money into ranking for that one keyword and you are not doing enough to show google you belong to be on a page better then 50
Well, you have no page rank and you're in an extremely competitive niche... no offense, but I think it has more to do with that than any penalty.
I didn't make this up and I've read about this penalty at other places as well. I also don't believe this is because my site is in a competitive niche. As I said before, my own domain name will not rank for the term "lol roulette". I mean how competitive is that term? I'm the only one in the world targeting it because that is the actual name of my website. Every page seems to never rank higher than position 50 for any keyword. There seems to be some invisible wall/line/border at this position where nothing can ever rank higher than 50. The evidence is just too clear and obvious that there is a -50 penalty. This is also the only site I have with this problem too. I have other gambling related sites with fewer pages and backlinks that are just fine. If I could get position 49 for the term "lol roulette", that would me a major breakthrough. Believe me, I've been checking my rankings every day and I've never seen it past position 50. Hopefully someone else here has had a similar situation and has solved the problem so that I can fix my own site.
You're probably right about the penalty...this is one of Google's methods for filtering out overzealous SEO. It might be an algorithmic penalty triggered by unnatural linking, or there may have been a manual penalty. Matt Cutts has a whole team doing this. The only real hope is that the offending links will be gradually deindexed and an "automatic" ranking penalty be reversed.
I Agree. With a very competitive niche, you need to build more quality links as well having a fresh content daily. Posting a blog post once a week will not cut it. Why don't you try creating a link wheel, do forums, blog comments and submit your link to high PR directories from time to time.
i am very sure about one of the reasons for the 50 penalty: SAME ANCHOR phrase ! did you use the same keyword phrase as anchor text?that would amount to this penalty.
Actually, I removed the word "roulette" from many of my sidebar internal links. I read about over-optimization and was trying to lower the keyword density and redundancy of the word "roulette". It was about 9.5% but now it's more like 7%. I guess this would make the site look more natural for everyone anyways. For external links, I did mix it up a little bit by having different anchor text, especially in directories. Though there are a few phrases that I targeted more than others. I've been posting on the blog on my site every day as well and it seems that Google likes this. It even showed that some of my posts were cached yesterday, which is pretty impressive compared to the rate before the blog was built. Still, the rankings are not improving and the blog posts are showing up on result 50 again along with all my other pages.
keep updating your website frequently and maintain keyword density .. also if you dont have rss feed. make one rss feed of your website and post it in to some rss directories.. it will help you to get better rankings..
you might be in an over optimization penalty, but i doubt it. i'm in an over optimization penalty for one of my sites and i have a PR 4. my links are all white hat article marketing links. you have a page rank of 0, so you're obviously doing something wrong. maybe you're cross linking all of your sites. you should know what you're doing wrong. your links are garbage. i picked out one page on yahoo site explorer and i found this link : http://www.oxmonline.com/article/reviews/xbox-360/s-z/turok your links are invisible. thats not helping the user. that's spam. plus that's not gonna help your rankings anyway. there's no anchor text stop being so shady with your marketing techniques, and start optimizing the "google" way. you should be getting links that benefit the user, offer content, and actually last. by the way, i used to get links like that too. finding blogs, posted my anchor text links on them. they are garbage and they don't last. i probably have like 15 blog comment spam-type links left and i posted over 500 comments.
About two years ago, I purchased all the domains and crosslinked everything so that Google could find all of my sites. There was no content or nothing, it was basically just a pre-construction method so the domains could start "aging". Now there is no crosslinking since the sites are developed, but I believe I may have gotten penalized from this. I requested reconsideration countless times about this because I will never know if this is the real reason. About the links, I hired someone who made those invisible links and I just did the directory submission stuff manually. Link building is a pain in the ass and I started doing it only about 5 months ago. I was having my Google 50 penalty long before that even and was pretty much the reason I started a link building blitz. What I hate about link building is the fact that I have some very high ranking sites with almost no inbound links and I never tried link building with those sites. I will probably just stop with the link building anyways except for the few good ones like BOTW, Yahoo, and a few industry links and a few blogroll links. I don't want to get into a link wheel type of thing because that puts me in deep risk and I'm sure Google can see this.
i don't know what you're ranking well for, but it's hard for me to believe that you're making a lot of money with it. you will have to build quality links to rank well for money keywords. i've never hired someone to get links or do seo for me. you have to do it yourself if you want to be successful so that you can recognize penalties and filters. nobody will do an optimization job better than yourself because seo companies are trying to make money, and therefore they are not dedicated to your site unless you are paying them thousands of dollars. if i were you, i wouldn't give up with link building. you have to start writing articles and getting quality links. if the link doesnt benefit the reader, then google is not going to value it very highly
Does anyone else have any theories on the Google 50 penalty? Is the consensus here show that the -50 penalty is mostly an "over-optimization" category penalty?
Sometime is best to do nothing and continue work as nothing happened,but no new link building just onsite content building and further optimization.I did that when i was penalized for three weeks where i ended on 950th position and it worked.
Yes, IMHO the -50 is over-optimization. I also think that changing KW density did not help and maybe hurt. G can tell that the changes were specifically for SEO reasons. Increasing or decreasing would not necessarily matter. It 'smells' of someone trying to optimize. My suggestion is that you stop making SEO specific changes. Add new on-topic content, delete some old content, and work at building a quality site for people, rather than spend time tring to fool G. /*tom*/
Take another look at this screenshot attachment: Google updates the page cache Feb 9th, yet the clock on my computer is Feb 8! (Of course this is some time zone thing). Still, this is the first time Google has EVER indexed any of my sites within the same 24 hour period. I assume that Google thinks my page is so important that it has been updating and indexing my pages quicker and quicker each day, and now it indexed on the same day. Probably because I have 1 blog post per day now. Now WHY does Google think my site is so unimportant that it won't even rank my site for it's own brand name "lol roulette". All my results are on result 50 for everything and I have exactly 0 visitors per day. I mean, on any other site I have, Google has never indexed them so quickly like this! EDIT: I just checked something and noticed that Google just indexed my newest blog post nearly INSTANTLY! Is it normal for sites to be indexed this quickly and still get crap rankings for even uncompetitive keywords or something?
I checked your site has no pro even I suggest 1) Make good links for your main page 2) Once you have good Pr of the main page then make links for the inner pages 3) Get Quality links not spams links 4) get links slowly don't get too fast that also spam