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how do i find a trusted php mysql programmer

Discussion in 'Programming' started by mnymkr, Apr 30, 2006.

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    i have gotten ripped of in the past. well person did what was required and there were bugs or changes and i could not reach them again. where can i find trusted programmers?

    thanks!
    SEMrush
     
    mnymkr, Apr 30, 2006 IP
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  2. chandubhai

    chandubhai Banned

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    #2
    You have found 1 already.
     
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    drewbe121212 Well-Known Member

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    #3
    It's all about the persons reputation. This is why it is hard to get started into the freelance businses. However, once the reputation is set, you are good to go and basically have everything you want/need infront of you.
     
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    mnymkr Well-Known Member

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    #4
    what should i be looking for/asking for? I have several projects on the table and really would like to get to work on them.
     
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    #5
    Me personally, I ask for some deposit

    Show the code on my server

    When the code is complete, the client is happy, no bugs found I ask for the complete payment and send over the script

    Here are some scripts I have built (email details on there to contact me)

    www.tigerscripts.com

    (Please note, it says I will do free scripts, that is for basic scripts, for personal use only, not business)
     
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    Danny Active Member

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    I code on rent a coder and they have a good system where you build a reputation. May be worth a look for you
     
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    chandubhai Banned

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    try giving him a small task. check his quality and preformance. ask for refrences if any.
     
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    #8
    Yes, I agree with that, you can outsouce a small project without risking big $ and you can get a pretty good idea of someone's integrity from working with them on that one project.
     
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    chandubhai Banned

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    #9
    Why are you scared choosing a developer. I mean if you have a fear like this try employing a in-house developer.
     
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    exam Peon

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    I don't think he's scared per-say, he's just trying to cover his bases and reduce the chances of getting ripped off.
     
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    chandubhai Banned

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    I feel one cannot do business without taking small risks? what say?
     
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    onlyican.com Peon

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    #12
    As I said, I think the best way, is to see they have some work.

    My way of working, i think should be the only way for freelancers online.

    Build a small part of the script, receive deposit, finish script, with changes required by the client, and the script for you to see. When both parties are happy, Pay the freelancer, at this point, if the freelancer has created the script, with your changes, it is very unlikly, he will not send you the script, he has done the work, all he has to do is email.

    Remember the Freelancer has to be careful, it has happened, where the script has been sent to the client, and no money receieved from the client.

    We are people as well, and this is our living, so if we spend either one day, or one month on a script, we still need money.
     
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    #13
    You get what you pay for, especially in this field. Most of the people on these freelance sites are only good at taking existing scripts and modfiying them based on your needs. If you want a truly knowledgable person it does cost money. If you want, drop me a PM and I can refer you to a guy who is a true expert with 9+ years doing php/mySQL. He is the best.
     
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    #14
    On what grounds can you base a php programmer as good or bad?
     
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    #15
    I base it on many factors: if they can do the job right the first time, their years of experience and portfolio, if they can code from scratch without using existing scripts, if they think about security in their code, if they can quickly debug problems, if they create clean, well documented code, and if they can suggest better solutions than what I asked for. If someone can do all that, I would call them "good".
     
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    #16
    Well said.
     
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    #17
    As a programmer I like to ask where I can find a trusted client...

    Its really a double edged sword as most clients seem to want coding done for nothing and do not value the time of the programmer. Most professional programmers will try to direct the client in a way where its beneficial for the client which usually results in up-charges/change-orders.

    The problem is that the clients usually does not agree with the programmer and are also in a hurry so they sacrifice quality for lower cost and faster time of delivery. Then when things go bad they blame the developer instead of themselves.

    I have worked on many Enterprise level projects utilizing PHP for clients like CVS, American Skandia, Konica, Verizon, and many others and almost everytime I was forced to deal with client based PM's that have no clue about the technologies involved or the time it takes to create something.

    I can think of one particular situation for Verizon where I had 2 weeks to create a simple if statement. 80 hours at my rate is not cheap. That comes out to almost $6,000 for one line of code. I feel the clients need to be more educated then the programmers as this is a waste of money and resources which causes our phone bills to go up, prescription prices to rise, etc...

    CVS is currently paying a team of 4 programmers $18,000 a week to create a straightforward application that before I left I was able to create a custom version in 3 weeks without any code reuse. And we wonder why prescription prices are so high. BTW CVS is currently $1 million dollars over budget on their project... Ineffective management can really affect alot of people...

    Mike :)

    ps. might be some typos and run-ons but I was in a rush...lol
     
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    chandubhai Banned

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    Very Very good question.:D
     
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    mnymkr Well-Known Member

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    #19
    i had a programmer contact me another site. i was wondering if anyone was familiar with his work. his name is Aron Gandrud. he found me on a forums from something i was trying to figure out myself.

    everythng has sounded sweet but when he sent me the link to where my stie would be demo something just didn't feel right.

    the link was www.snar.no/raines

    now i didnt expect anything to be there but when i just checked the normal site www.snar.no i was shocked. if this is, in fact , his company site. i am not impressed.

    any advice?
     
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    Ok, so the guy's Norwegian, I certainly don't have a problem with that.
     
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