How did you become an seo expert ?

Read techniques and tricks from SEO books and start implementing them.
Or join as SEO trainee in any SEO firm.

 

just learn here

http://www.ihelpyou.com/forums/

 

Not an expert but being able to make a living with seo is enough for me. Read, learn and apply....and read, learn and apply....thats all.

 

How I became a SEO expert, hmmm, I think I don't remember.

Anyway, can someone please tell me what a Back Link Is ??

 

I have been a lurker here for quite sometime. Until I decided to register

 

Back link is a link of your site that hosted in another site.

 

Still early days for me but i dream to be one

 

I think you are asking in the wrong place, just a bunch of amatuers here. Why not go ask these guys ... it's obvious they know what they are doing

 

What, asking spammers?

 

Call them what you will but you will not find a more competitive market than that of pharma products ... Well perhaps pr0n.

So, if you really want to know the ins & outs of SEO take a close look at what they are doing and mimic on a more G-rated level. Asking this question at digitalpoint will only yield conflicting answers and pretty much get you nowhere.

So if you don't want to check out Viagra pick another competitive market and watch the SERPs, you'll learn more in an afternoon than this place can teach you in months.

 

I've worked on automobiles for 25+ years, and even attended tech school for it. I now work for an office equipment company as a technician, and get the occassional call from our other 103 techs on repair advice on a machine called a "Plockmatic"... Am I an expert mechanic/technician? Am I an expert on the "Plockmatic" machines? NO!!! You are never an expert. You are always a student of your profession. Once you self-proclaim to be an expert, you are lost! Same for SEO. Never close your mind! If you ever think you have it all figured out, you are lost! You quit being a student of your profession.
I AGREE WITH ERECTADIRECTORY immensly. These guys figured out the "game". Thats all SEO is, a game! But, you need to be good at the game too. For the record, I use gray hat. It works. Whats my opinion of gray hat and black hat?

Gray Hat - A trick that will work, that the SE's wont catch onto.

Black Hat - An "old" trick that every SE in the world is aware of, and will eventually catch on to. (This has its place too, with disposable domains/hosting).

Any form of on-page optimization is considered "search engine optimization"... Or, should I say, search engine MANIPULATION? Any input from the experts?

 

Coming from a Web development background with a specialty and emphasis on accessibility, information architecture, semantic markup, usability and Web copywriting, I just cannot in good conscience follow that path.

Besides, around here I'm the one doing the teaching. It's not my problem that some people still don't listen.

You know, for someone who hoards rep+ like fine wine, gold, and jewelry, I sure have been giving it out a lot lately.

I'm going to summarize everything you just said here with a favorite quotation of mine. "The day you think you have nothing else left to learn is the day the world leaves you behind."

 

I don't like sitepoint's seo forum because it's ultra white hat which means calling it SEO is really a misnomer. I read Chris Beasley's guide and I forget the exact quote, but he more or less says that white hat SEO is almost nothing anymore. What a lot of ultra pure white hats call SEO is really SEGO(search engine guideline optimization) and doesn't really need to be studied and a forum for it is sort of redundant. Your quote sums up what I mean, "which made me realize that I already knew most of what I should have learned about SEO in the first place.".

 

Black Hat, White Hat it's all pretty trivial and the goal posts can be switched at any time.

For example take Matt Inman, very talented guy who made Widget Quiz's (a lot of you have probably done them) which produce a score badge you can put on your site or blog. These create a backlink to his site and he was ranking #1 for "Online Dating" and other terms in about 3 months.

Recently he woke up and his site was wiped off the map. Many would argue it's a great viral way to build links, especially if the user was informed about the backlink and had the option to remove it if they wish.

Google see's it differently, so what's Black/White is definitely open to interpretation and can change at any time.

 

i am no expert but i learn alot from this forum.

Maybe when i am 40 i will be an expert. ( i am 18 now) :d

 

This is a good example of how Google and its lovers have not only redefined what white and black hat seo is, but have actually redefined what seo is period. Before google, the meaning of seo was to optimize your site directly for search results. That meant optimizing meta tags, use of correct keywords and keyword density, etc. Google has effectively changed the definition of seo, now any effects on search engine ranking, according to Google and its loyalists, should be attained almost exclusively through activities that you would do if the search engines didn't even exist. I found the section in Beaseley's article and was influenced by his wording in my last sentence.

http://www.websitepublisher.net/article/white-gray-black/


So google is constantly redefining and refining what it means to be a "good" seo, or as you put it, moving the goal posts. Therefore the term is really a hollow one. It means almost nothing to me unless you're actually doing stuff to optimize your rankings in a direct way that influences the search engine's algorithm.

Because of this I agree with the poster earlier who pointed to the viagra black hatters as a place to learn. Succesful black hat seo spammers are indeed the best SEOs however they are horrible SEGOs.

 

(Disclosure - I'm a moderator at SitePoint, so please understand that what I'm about to say is my own personal opinion and is not reflective of SitePoint Pty. Ltd., the SitePoint Forums, or any employee or volunteer staff member at SitePoint in any way, shape, or form whatsoever.)

To me though there's no difference between "white hat" and "black hat" SEO - there is on the other hand "making Web sites for people" and "making Web sites for search engines". I practice the former by ensuring that every site I create is easy to find (via the search engines and offline methods), easy to access (I make my sites accessible to everyone from everywhere), and easy to use (I don't make my users and visitors think - nor do I expect them to jump through hoops to get to what they want).

Furthermore, a lot of what people consider to be "White Hat SEO" is really just a combination of accessibility, copywriting, information architecture, semantic markup and usability anyway. For example, search engines recommend that people not use Flash and/or JavaScript to create their menus. This isn't because they don't like them, it's because their crawlers can't index them easily (if at all). There's also a non-SEO benefit to not using these two technologies as well. Not everybody uses Flash and/or JavaScript capable user agents - especially mobile devices (yes, the iPhone can probably handle it, but how many outside of the Cult of Macintosh really use iPhones anyway? I know I don't - and besides, Opera Software dominates the mobile browser market anyway). And then you've got people who are at the mercy of their employers' IT departments when browsing at work as well. Imagine going to your favorite Web site and realizing you can't use it because JavaScript and/or Flash were disabled by the IT staff. Oops.

Honestly though, with a few notable exceptions, I could care less what the search engines say we should do. While you may think this is a dangerous way of thinking (and doing things), for me it's not. My background is Web development, not search engine optimization, and my areas of focus just happen to be on the user experience. Accessibility, copywriting, information architecture, semantic markup, and usability are my primary weapons of choice. The main aspects of what people seem to consider "Search Engine Optimization" that I take into consideration happen to be preventing duplicate content, controlling what pages gets indexed and links get followed, targeting my site so that I rank well for the search terms I want to rank well for so I can use the search engines as a means of pre-pre-qualifying the traffic they send me (if my site is about dog houses, I don't want online dating or Viagra in the anchor text that points back to the site, nor do I want those types of sites linking back to me in the first place).

As for my attitude regarding the search engines, I can get away feeling the way I do because their goals just happen to coincide (nearly) perfectly with my own - afterall, I make Web sites for people, not search engines.

Your mileage of course may vary.

 

I think that when you are dealing with SEO, the most important thing you have is to have a certain reasonable degree of patience. When most people deal with SEO, they are rather impatient and will tend to make exits. For example, if anyone does SEO and expects to see results the moment they jump out of bed the next morning, they are certainly dreaming.

 

no such thing as SEO experts, you just need to learn how the google ranking system works
if you got the budget for the rank you will get it.

 

They are not dreaming, they are working.
Ethical SEO is a long term process. Implementation should be done according to the analysis.
If the analysis is proper the you will get result. Otherwise you lose your time and money.
So it is very essential that your SEO analysis should be done by experienced SEO experts.