jesus came to us as a lowly servant to teach us how god wants us to be and how we should treat each other. If god himself can come down from his throan in heaven to humble himself before man , how can we treat each other less than this? May jesus bless u all, and a big hail mary to u all as well
because its not right...here is my own translation of the greek, using Bibleworks 6 for definitions of the greek words: "In a beginning I AM the WORD, and the WORD I AM with the(ton in greek) GOD, and GOD I AM the WORD" There is no article in the original Greek for "a", "ton" as specified in the greek is a translation of "the", not "a"...actually it translates better to "in order that", or "so that", or "that". Does that help?
We are all very fortunate to be living in a time when the word of God and the knowledge of it can be found. There has been so much research done, study aids and referencing make it easier to understand and access Gods word. When we speak of what we believe we become dangerously close to being judgmental of ourselves, and of God for that matter, so i guess we should in all honesty act in accordance to the Word and discern there is a time to listen and a time to speak and a time to be silent.
Dear Kae, this would be easier for me to believe were your discernments in the matters we have discussed not singularly associated with one group But be that as it may, I have already attested to my belief that in the end what really matters is the content of our hearts come the Day of Judgement, and like as to SEO, my sneaking suspicion is you'll probably do okay. I certainly hope so. Maybe we'll be neighbors in the New City. Irregardless of SEO's contention that I will not be invited, persona non grata... ah, well, to each his own. As for this, Kae: Jhn 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Funny, then why don't you let Him make the call? Wasn't it you who said no one who is not a Jehovah's Witness can go to heaven? Sounds remarkably man-made to me.
Gods entire Kingdom to come is what we are all interested in being a part of and we want to be there with people that have the same humble obedient heart, motivated by love. Let God be the judge i say
Amen to that, Kae, if by the same you don't mean religion and if by obedience you do mean to God. There's a whole lot of second tier issues down here confusing alot of stuff all up. I see it in every faith I have ever encoutered. But through it all there are those who simply love the Lord. Those are the ones I believe are guaranteed salvation. The rest will be judged on the content of their hearts. Either way I'm sure there's going to be a lot of surprises up there
Like you, I am trying to make sure I'm not one of those surprised and asking why not me... man-made religions just suck... simple as that. Follow a man and end up where man is heading, follow God and end up where He is at. I love how certain people on this forum come to these threads with their so-called understanding of Christianity and being clueless spout out things that aren't even close. (talking about the ones who claim to be atheist on other threads)
"Sweet Jesus" too! I say we all sit here and wait for God to post... He's always padding his post count.
I may have said that yes. But! According to the Bible. These are not my own ideas at all and also it is not God's will to think otherwise. You can take all the things you read from the Bible and make them suit your own ideas but I will stick to what the Bible really teaches. Oh! I know you will debate this as usual. There is not going to be any surprises up there and nor there should be. God is completely in control of what goes on up there and always will be. Except for the fact that all authority has been handed over to Jesus as King of God's Kingdom, and we know he has proven himself completely worthy of taking on that role. The ones in heaven now and those to ascend to heaven soon are all chosen by God for doing his will with their whole heart, their whole soul and whole mind. Those who will co-rule with Jesus as kings and priests will have important jobs to do. There is only 144,000 positions available and most positions are already filled. The whole idea of everyone going to heaven or hell (that leaves no one on earth) does not make any sense at all when you read verses like Ps 37:29; 2 Pet 3:13; Is 65:17; Is 2:4; Is 32:18; Micah 4:4; Is 65:21-24; Ps 145:16; Is 11:6-9; Is 65:25; Is 33:24: Is 35:5-6; Acts 24:15 and one of the most comforting scriptures of all is John 5:28-29. All of these scriptures point to many, many things that will happen on the earth. One more scripture to back that up is Is 45:18. You would be wise to read the last part of that verse, that makes a very interesting point. Warmest Regards and hope you are having a wonderful day. Col
Great and comforting scriptures ..Gives me a meaning to life. The scriptures teach us how to live here in peace and happiness. Jesus Christ showed us that it is possible to be sinless, righteous and completely obedient to Jehovah.... in the flesh but walking in the spirit. That gives me hope for a better future.
Haha, SEO, at least we finally agree on something God wants your heart and soul, that's true, but he also wants your mind. And I hate to say it but you seem to have lost yours in a cult. Kae, for all the wonderful things you say I am sensing that there's a thin blue line you will not cross. And that is your cult "family." Why, if you see your "brother" say such eggregious apostacies as the above "only Jehovah's Witnesses can go to heaven" why do you not correct him? Be free in Him, Kae. Leave the cult.
hi, I would like to add these verses from the holy Quran which was revealed on the prophet Mohammad (PBUH) who never read the history and was not a literate person (he could not read nor write). "O People of the Scripture(Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Mary and a spirit created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilaah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs. The Messiah will never be proud to reject to be a slave to Allah, nor the angels who are near (to Allah). And whosoever rejects His worship and is proud, then He will gather them all together unto Himself. So, as for those who believed (in the Oneness of Allah - Islamic Monotheism) and did deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards, and more out of His Bounty. But as for those who refuse His worship and were proud, He will punish them with a painful torment. And they will not find for themselves besides Allah any protector or helper. O humankind! Verily, there has come to you a convincing proof (Prophet Muhammad) from your Lord, and We sent down to you a manifest light (this Qur'an). So, as for those who believed in Allah and held fast to Him, He will admit them to His Mercy and Grace, and guide them to Himself by a Straight Path."4:171-175
It is not a cult at all. You are looking pretty ridiculous here mate by persisting down this line. You only call our organization a cult because what some "others" who refuse to recognize the "true God" and continue with their own thinking. I know this puts you into that category but hey? I can only speak the truth. I have said it before and say it again. "Don't believe the hype"! Check it out for yourself. "Cult" - Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols. "Cult" - a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. Our organization does not have sacred symbols (goes against worshipping idols such as the cross, statues etc. - Exodus 20:4-5) Since when do we have a charismatic leader?? As usual your statements are based on false accusations. Try bringing up something new. This is getting boring. Maybe you can investigate the snake charming thing again? If you look a bit further you will find there was false accusations there too. You think I am being misled? Try looking in your own backyard before criticizing others. Have a lovely day today will you?? Please?? Col