How did Alive & Aviva became so popular?

remember pets.com? or all those web company who burn million in the late 90's?

 

Its all because of hard work, intelligency and money

 

Yes but many links are on a monthly plan, so...after all this time...how much do they spend on text links??

$15.000/month?

 

Money is a HUGE factor, you can spend all the link exchange, link baits, seo tactics that you want, without even some $$ forget a PR6.

Sounds like they had a big budget, maybe that helped.

 

Theyer owners spend LOTs LOTS of money on advertising and buying links

 

Everyone speculating and owners are stilling viewing this thread

 

The nature of business on the web through the eyes of most webmasters is quite different from offline businesses.

In an offline business, owners usually get a loan for a large sum of money to startup, and will use that money as well as money made continuously putting it back into their business. So for the first couple years, their businesses lose money.

If you told the average webmaster at DP to go get a loan at a bank for two hundred thousand dollars, invest 10,000 a month in promotion of a site as well as all revenue for two years, they would think you were crazy.

People want something for nothing on the web, but this is rarely possible. It happens, but not very often.

My guess, and it is only a guess, is that Chris, Jeff, etc. take a similar approach. They may not need the loans because of previous business ventures (software, link brokerage, etc.), but they take the same long term approach of losing money in the short term, but building something useful and valuable in the long term.

Most of us, myself included, don't treat our sites in this way and that is the reason for limited success.

 

Absolutely correct!
But pure business minded man doesn't think like this.

 

These kinds of people are few and far between.

 

Arguably the best post of the week or maybe in reality the best post of the year so far

 

Money for Nothing

Now look at them yo-yos thats the way you do it
You have a directory on the internet
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and links for free
Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
Lemme tell ya them guys aint dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy thats his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot hes a millionaire

We gotta install microwave ovesns
Custom kitchens deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

I shoulda learned to run a business
I shoulda learned to invest
Look at that mama, she got it stickin in the camera
Man we could have some fun
And hes up there, whats that? hawaiian noises?
Bangin on the bongoes like a chimpanzee
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Get your money for nothin get your chicks for free

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs, lord

Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
You have a directory on the internet
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and your links for free
Money for nothin and chicks for free

 

Good customer service is pivotal in most big businesses. Good customer service is something I have always provided for my clients. It's what keeps clients returning for more business. They like your conversational skills, your ability to resolve any problems that arise quickly and efficiently, and most importantly, service with a smile

Out of the thousands of clients I have dealt with over the years. I have only had to be stern and direct with a few clients that were ruthless, rude and arrogant, and way out of line.

I guess Jeff and Chris would be doing nothing different here. They are there for the long term.

Well done guys!

Col

 

Unlike me, who spends his online money on booze and gamblin' (did I mention women tch tch), these two good guys spend them listing revenues on buying links, lotsa links. They see a good site selling links and they be the first one to PM, if they are online, and they be online mostly.

And perhaps they never started out with loads of marketing money. They been patient all along.. putting the money that the directories generated into the directory promotion and link building.

And any directory where they be not listed

And as a nice PR campaign, organic?? .. AH that article on diebetesblog by searchenginejournal , but that article sure did a good PR for ALIVE and AVIVA at the footnote. I mean it was a nice PR (not pagerank)

 

If I had so much money as this two, I will also be so popular

 

Thanks for your kind words.

 

I doubt, that their money came from nowhere - so this sounds a little like jealousy to me.

 

High Promotion ....due to high budgets for them.

 

Who isnt jealos ? I am jealos, but I just want to say the truth, this two guys has very much money and they spend it out self on nothing worth directories

 

Can anyone put a guesstimate as to the worth of AVIVA and Alive?
And what could be the revenue look like

There are only a few directories out there like Alive and Aviva.
I think with a good campaign, and even imitating the two, there is room for more such directories.

But Man, getting a PR of 7 (strengh of 7.5) takes a LOT of organic link building. You can't just go out and buy a million links.

And hey, can't you just buy so many links to a Mesothelioma site instead

 

I think original funding is important, but also the dedication and effort are as important....

But you can't get rich without working hard.