Let's say for example, I am in competition with another site. If they are running adsense, can I not take their code, put it on a porn site and then report my site with his code and get him banned? The best he can do is say it's not his site, but Google doesn't know that. Why should they believe it? Let's say Google is feeling generous that day and gives him another publisher ID. Can I not wait a coule weeks and do th esame thing from a different ISP? How in the world can Google stop this? I think Google should be more like Kanoodle/Clicksor, where you can only display ads on approved sites.
Its easy for Google to stop this hence it very rarely occurs. Also, people have to be pretty pathetic to consider doing such things.
Yea they can stop it. Also you would think that you could just keep clicking his ads, but they'd notice your IP find your account and ban YOU! Google is smarter than you think. Skinny
Well, even if they couldn't. Imagine that someone takes my adsense code and paste it on a porn page. Google bans me, citing the offending URL. I write back, saying that it isn't mine and if they want, they can block serving ads to that page.
I've heard this question being raised a number of times, but I've never heard of it actually ever happening to anyone. 1) If someone went through the trouble of doing this to you, then you must have really pissed them off; 2) It's too much damn trouble to take someone's pub ID, open a porn site, and stick the guy's pub ID on it. Too much time and hassle, even for a very vindictive person. 99.9999% of the time they just click bomb you in hopes of sabotaging you.
usually google can find out...say if you have a known/big site....they can tell whats going on if its put on a free-hosted place
What if I'm not an Adsense publisher or I'm behind a proxy? How can they ban me then? I think Google should go the way of Kanoodle and Clicksor, where they have to pre-approve each site that way nothing like this could happen. ?
Dude, trust me, every week some kid with proxy knowledge comes in here believing the same thing: that they are smarter than Google, and I always tell them the same thing: Google is a multi-billion dollar multi-national corporation with an army of computer geeks, each one of them with more degrees than you do, whose sole goal is to catch cheaters. Do you honestly believe little ol you, with your proxy, is smarter than them? Think again.
I believe you are missing the point. I am not speaking about myself getting someone banned, it is a hypothetical question. If one of your competitors (with the way Adsense is now) wanted to, they could get you banned by simple putting your ad on another site. Which is why I am asking if people would agree if they should pre-approve sites. It is fallacious to beleive that just because they are a big company they are flawless. I have read a number of Blackhat SEO stories as well as people who cheated Adsense and got away with it for long periods of time.
And where in my statement do I state that because Google is a big company that they are "flawless"? Saying that Adsense has a lot of geeks whose sole job is to catch cheaters, regardless of how brilliant they think they are or what method they dream up next, is a far cry from saying they are "perfect". And as I said, we hear this "proxy" line every other week. You're not the first.
You are still missing the point. Read slower. If your competitor wanted to get you banned they can do it easily, which is why I am asking if anyone out their would agree that Google should pre - approve sites like Kanoodle or Clicksor. To continue, I never said you said they were "flawless". The way you were speaking. You made it seem that ordinary people can not cause Google trouble: There are many articles on cheating Adsense getting top ranks in Googles in a couple weeks etc,...Yahoo, another multi-billion, multi-national, company was hacked not too long ago. I am merely stating an observation.
It's YOU who doesn't get it. Here, let me repeat, so it'll be "slower": Google: Lots of geeks. Lots of degrees. Sole job is to protect its investment (re: its earnings) and catch malcontents wishing to do it harm. Internet Geeks: Pimple faced college/high school kids. No dates. Sit at home writing about how easy it is to cheat Adsense/Google. The Difference: Google doesn't brag; pimple-face kid likes to brag. P.S. You didn't ask if people "agree" with your assertion that Adsense should be more like Clicksor/Kanoodle. You made a statement. PERIOD. You never said I said, but you quoted me and call what I wrote "fallacious", but you didn't mean to say that I said it. Huh? If some dork in a dorm can "cause Google trouble" then Google would have collapsed years ago. There is a reason why YOU work for THEM, and not the other way around. There are also a lot of articles about how George Bush and Dick Cheney personally went to the World Trade Center and planted explosives to knock the WTC down, and that it wasn't the work of terrorist hijacked planes, too. Later George Bush and Dick Cheney ran into the Pentago to blow it up, while riding on water buffalos. How exactly does getting ranked high in the SE qualify as "reliable sources"? Your leap in logic is astounding. As to the notion of "getting hacked" -- nowadays taking someone's website down for a second is cause for celebration as a "successful hack". I am merely stating an observation.
What are you implying, that just because Google is big it can't be cheated? A handful of terrorists can cause America trouble, look at how big it is. Is America crumbling at it's feet? I could probably cause your websites some trouble, does that mean your web empire is slowly fading away? No. I am just stating that there are flaws. Just like there are flaws with everything, except this is a big loose end that should have been tied long ago. Read again: ... Correct, I never said you did. Read slower. I never called your statements fallacious. Show me where I called your statements fallacious. While you're at it, show me where I said I didn't "mean" what I said. Saying "it" is fallacious is different from saying: what you are saying is fallacious. Are you regarding Google as godlike? Again. I will restate. A handful of terrorists can cause America trouble, look at how big it is. Is America crumbling at it's feet? I could probably cause your websites some trouble, does that mean your web empire is slowly fading away? No. I am just stating that there are flaws. Just like there are flaws with everything, except this is a big loose end that should have been tied long ago. I know that is bogus, but get me some reliable sources to verify that news story. I have never heard of that. But I have many sources to verify stories such as this: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/254 Do a Google search for -Yahoo hacked-. It happens all the time. Seeing domains in a stage of infancy jump to the top of Google for certain keywords is a reliable source for me. I have seen it myself. And thanks for the compliment, it takes a quick witted individual to keep up with my "leaps". Unfortunately, not everyone is light-footed... If that's not a successful hack, then what is? "Hacker in a security context refers to a type of computer hacker who is involved in computer security/insecurity and is able to exploit systems or gain unauthorized access through skills, tactics and detailed knowledge." The moment you have been exploited it is a hack. You dont have to have access for 24 hrs for it to be considered a hack. And defacing a website is major in my opinion. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=r...cRIKVG7T4aPS3tNQJ&sig2=_egQSoDH4CY_7oT0-fpXNQ http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=r...cRIKVG7T4aPS3tNQJ&sig2=JyMt2C_v9BDqBV7Wn2SFDA http://www.zone-h.org/content/view/13933/31/ So am I. On a side not, I love the way you talk about geeks and nerds. It's so ironic because that's coming from a person with over 3500 posts. Because it isn't a valid solution. If a lazy admin wants to knock you out fo the picture, why would they spend hours on SEO and link building when they can disable you financially in less than an hour?
This is why I try to keep track of ad impressions on my channels and make sure they add up to the correct total number.