How complaintsboard.com can operate

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by softwareydiseno, May 1, 2013.

  1. #1
    Hi guys this is my first post, i hope you can help me.

    How complaintsboard.com/ can operate with all the personal information they reveal on the site.

    Is this legal?

    A company can not sue for defamation or something.

    I really want to make a site so that people can report ill treatment of companies and stuff but I'm a little scared about the legal side.

    Wjat do u think, it's worth?


    PD. Sorry about my english :(
     
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  2. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    They state the legal justification on their website.

    "Under federal law (the Communications Decency Act) ComplaintsBoard.com is not legally responsible for the complaints that are posted, even if those complaints contain remarks that are defamatory."

    Basically the complaints themselves are posted by users (user generated content) and thus the website is acting as an OSP (online service provider) and afforded protection by the DMCA.

    http://www.complaintsboard.com/legal-information.html
     
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    softwareydiseno Member

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    So if i want to start a site like this i just need to especificate in the Legal Information?

    I want to do it in Spanish, any tips?
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    I do not think there is any such full protection, maybe limited protections.
    Lets say a defamatory post ended up on the board about facebook;
    do you think their pockets are that deep to defend such a lawsuit if facebook
    deemed that they would go after the site in open court?

    right off hand, I know of at least one forum that ended up facing a lawsuit
    because the site refused to remove a post that was defamatory; not only did
    the forum refuse to delete the post, they also leeched lots of defense cash
    from their members, and they pitched in like a bunch of wild hogs; and I am not
    talking about 1000's of posts; I am just talking about 1 post making slanderous remarks.

    You can hide behind what-ever wall you want in dream-land and pretend you are
    not responsible because you are not the one making the posts, but you know they
    are there, and do nothing about them because you think you have immunity,
    which is not true; If your pockets are deep enough, then you can pretty much sue anyone.
    (You do have certain protections, but that does not protect your cash
    flow if the other party decides to take full legal action)

    however; winning the lawsuit is another story...
    (either way, both parties may end up spending lots
    of money so they can protect their good name/or site)

    I am sure these big complaint boards get their fair share of lawsuits.
    You can justify as right one way, and loose money another....

    Here is one complaint board suing another complaint board.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/45346719/Ripoff-Report-v-Complaints-Board-COMPLAINT

    If you go into this expecting 0 lawsuits...
    Then you may need to rethink your plan...

    If you do your homework, then you will quickly find out
    that ripoffreport and complaint board have had their
    fair of lawsuits, and this is far as I go....

     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I can't speak for why some other random site was unable to protect themselves. I can speak for myself and my experience with the law. If you follow the rules of the DMCA, and a user post defames somebody, it would be fairly easy to get out of a lawsuit suing you as the OSP. There are many ways to look at a lawsuit like that. Sure you could get sued, but you could get the case dismissed without much effort or cost. That is not something that I would be overly concerned about. Then again, I am a lawyer, so the mere threat of an unmeritorious lawsuit that has a clearly defined legal ground to get the case dismissed would not be something I would worry too much about. Other people might not feel the same way.
     
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    dscurlock Prominent Member

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    I am not sure why a site would want to continue on with a lawsuit other then
    publicity for the site; If he would have followed DMCA practices, and had just removed
    a simple post in question, then I am sure he could have gotten any suit dropped
    fairly quickly, but he decided to protect the member that created the post, and
    refused to remove the post; rather then doing it the easy way, I guess he took
    his suit to the members of his forum to asked for help, and he got lots of it, or maybe
    the other party wanted to sue the poster, but the forum protected the member,
    and the forum got sued instead, either way, the owner decided to do it the hard way...
    do you give up your member, or do you protect them, and ask your loyal followers
    to pay the way? oh well, not even sure if the case is still on-going or not. It it obvious
    that he did not follow any DMCA rules, like you said, if he had followed any DMCA
    practices, then he probably could have got the cased dropped before leeching into
    the pockets of his members to help him carry his lawsuit...

    Lawyers can do some really good stuff; I have gotten out of some tickets that
    I should have never gotten out of, but a good lawyer can do wonders...

    and I do not think people really understand the cost of a lawyer when they start
    dishing out stuff like "I am going to sue paypal"

    lawyers do have different rates, but I have paid lawyers anywhere from
    $300-$500 just to stand in front of a judge for less then 15 min to
    make their arguments to get my cases dismissed, and this was a fixed rate.
    I would imagine an ongoing rate could be between $100-$300/hr
    and probably much higher for rich people lawyers....

     
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    Ha! General Electric (GE) is part of that club....
    why am I not surprised...

    In order for me to earn $1000/hr...
    I would have to win the lottery....
    a couple times....


     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #10

    I live in Spain and while what you want to do is nothing illegal, Spain is probably one of the safest place in the world to do anything illegal. You can pretty much kill someone and get away with it. On average the civil cases take about 7 years before going to court, so even someone sues you by the time the case comes to court most likely both the company and your web site is long gone. :)
     
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